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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby daughterofdon on Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:21 am

Cute, I like Merlin's profile! And that picture of him with all those magical ladies--very funny! There are several legends about his youth; I can fill you in if you want. The most interesting thing is that he is cambion; meaning that his mother was a human (a princess, actually), and his father was an incubus (there are several theories of how incubi can impregnate humans, but I'll not go into that). So he is often considered to be fatherless.

Jadeling-- I'm going to have you keep Guinevere as one of your characters. We decided that before the other players showed interest. And I'll know that you will portray her the way that would most benefit the story.

Ivory Moon, I'll accept your profile. It's very different from how I had portrayed Nimue, though. My Nimue was over a thousand years old and she was tall, dark-haired and a brawny lady. However, I don't want you to change your profile, Ivory Moon. So let's do this; she'll be completely separate from the Nimue I created. How about--she's the Lady of the Lake's protege? In one version I read, Vivienne trained Nimue to be the second generation Lady of the Lake. Your Nimue will be that one, and the Nimue of the legends that beguiles Merlin. The other Nimue... we'll just say that she is a friend of Merlin's, but it didn't work out between them, for reasons that were implied in the other story.

So to avoid confusion, I only ask that you alter your character's name. Nineve or Niniane are several different versions she is sometimes known by. I would also prefer that you make her a little older, just so there's not a horrendous age gap between she and Merlin. And she doesn't have to be Vivienne's sister. And I love her being of nymph-like origins. That was the angle I was going at for Vivienne, as well. :)

So, if you make those alterations, I can post for Vivienne and we'll have some interaction between them. Merlin will be introduced to Morgan le Fay. Perhaps Morgan and Merlin can come visit the Lake? Also, perhaps Merlin and this new Nimue have not yet met? So she doesn't have to be his pupil yet, unless that is what you want.
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby IvoryMoon on Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:42 pm

Okay.. ^_^ I changed it a little, but I think her looks represent her nymph-roots. Those were youthfull, allthough they were sometimes a thousand years old. And the blond hair and the blue eyes I think they represent her pureness and untouched purity.


Full name and title: Lady Niniane
Birthplace: In the woods somewhere in ancient England
Gender: Female
Age: No body knows her age precisely, but she's thought to be a few centuries old.
Appearance: Her lovely, heart-shaped face with clear blue eyes, is framed with a veil of opulent golden hair. Hair that looks like satin and feels like silk. She has the looks of her mother. Her origin lies in the nymphs of the woods. Though she's some centuries old, she looks very youthful, because of her roots. She's the little sister of the Lady of Lake and their looks are similar, though their personality is not. Nimue is very cheerful and she knows the forest better than anyone else.

Brief history: Nimue was the daughter of Diosen, in the legends just a knight, her mother was a nymph, this is where she got her looks from. Diosen saw a glance of this unknown, yet enchanting beauty of the nymph. The moment they met, both knew this was not without consequences and they were right. Nimue was born.
She was not able to stay with the nymph, her mother, because she was partly human and humans will be enchanted by the untouched beauty of the nymphs. Diosen took her to his hometown, where Nimue grew up amongst other kids.
She felt not like being partly nymph, though she noticed the effects or it, while she grew up and became -forhuman beings- adult. The girls she grew up with, envied her abnormally and she noticed that other women got facial lines, yet she still looked like she was in her early twenties, allthough she was thirty-five already.
At that point she got scared by herself. There was something wrong with her, so she ran away from everything she'd ever known. She wandered for years, till she came to the lake. There'd be her story reveiled by her half-sister, the Lady of the Lake...

Living blood relations: Probably only her mother, but she've never known her. She was taken away by her father right after she was born.
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby Applepoisoneer on Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:00 pm

WOW! O_O
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby Applepoisoneer on Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:05 pm

WOW! O_O I'd never hear that! That's absolutely crazy, yet strangely funny. You don't hear too much about incubi really; sucubi are just sooooooo much more appealing it seems. Anyway, I know a few myths about his youth but nothing I'd particularly connect with the man he is now.

The most interesting myth that I'd heard was that his father was human and I can't remember who his mother was, but she was immortal somehow. Anywho, his mother left him as a small boy with his father who wasn't very... nice for lack of better word. He was kind of loving but smacked him around a bit. He had a mentor who's name escapes me but I'm partial to thinking he was Greek and this is where he learned his great deal of worldly knowledge and his magic came from practice in general. Not a great one but it's something, I guess...
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby daughterofdon on Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:47 pm

Okay, the profile for Nimue is good, and I like the description of psychological traumas. But I still want you to change her name (it can be slight, like I suggested). It's alright for her to be related to Vivienne, and we will assume that they are sisters through their mother, the nymph. But Vivienne's father was named Dionas, and he was a magical being--not a mortal knight at this Diosen was. Althought it sounds to me like they might be the same person. Vivienne, though, is certainly not human at all.

And when you change her name, just go back and edit your former post. I only want her name changed so we can refer to her without confusing her with my first Nimue.

And yes, incubi are gross. But I'd say that the most traditional myth has Merlin without a father.
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby Applepoisoneer on Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:13 pm

Sorry about the wierd post above. Anyway, I don't think Incubi are all that gross. What's really gross is when they try and modernize them and sucubi; biker leather and spikes on a fury from the days of youre, how sad.....

But thanks for telling me about Merlin. Is it alright if I bring him in to speak with Morgan about something that I haven't quite figured out yet... I thought it would give me a change to brign in Merlin and bring Morgan out of the little funk she's in and get her going somewhere. Any ideas?
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby Jadeling Hawkins on Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:39 pm

Yeah, I've always heard about Merlin having been fathered by an incubus. Meh, both of the sex demons are weird. Anywho.

I'm a little confused by the profile for the younger Nimue...it's stated that she looks like Vivienne, and yet Vivienne had green skin and dark hair...while Nimue is listed as having the classic blond hair and blue eyes...and no green skin...and the old Nimue was Vivienne sister, and actually had the fey qualities to her appearance. And also, you use purity twice in your description of her...but isn't part of her whole character here that she's going to become Merlin's lover and then trap him in a cave? I'm just very confused. May I have some clarification?
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby daughterofdon on Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:38 pm

Right, I overlooked the part about her looking like Vivienne. Here's a profile for the Lady of the Lake:

Name: Vivienne
Birthplace: Isle of Avalon
Gender: Female
Age: 1,298 (but she appears to be 30-ish)
Appearance: Lovely and ethereal, with dark hair and white robes made of samite. Her skin is shiny and a little bit greenish. She has pointed ears and dark blue eyes.
Brief History: Daughter of Dionas and a nymph, Vivienne has lived a long life of study, cultivation of her powers, fey politics, along with a great deal of luxury and hedonism. She was raised in a Roman culture, and continues to follow that lifestyle, in accordance with her Greek and British heritage. She has long been a patron of military heroes, and collects enchanted weapons, which she endows to those she sees worthy. Her greatest accomplishment, is of course, residing over a villa, situated beneath an enchanted Lake. She granted the sword Excalibur to King Arthur when he was newly crowned. She has had many loves, but her soul mate is Sir Pelleas, a human knight. Lancelot will ever be regarded as her favorite son, although he was adopted--more correctly, kidnapped.
Living relatives: Mabuz (son), Nimue #1 (sister), Nimue #2 (half-sister?), Marrik (nephew)
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby Jadeling Hawkins on Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:12 am

I might add more to my post later...but I woke up after a few hours of sleep and couldn't go back, so I figured I'd try and get something done to advance us a bit, and now I'm sleepy again :) If I haven't done it yet, DoD, feel free to set us up with some potatoes, bread, salted pork...the very basic meal of the noblesse back in the days ^^ Also, you have my permission to work up dialog for Nathan. Just so you know, he doesn't dislike Lancelot (though I love Lance's paranoia about the matter...Nathan is just a stern guy. He probably has only even smiled at Adaline and Alanna a grand total of thirty times within their lives, and he's like a surrogate father to them...lol) and even is impressed with him and likely pleased that such an impressive-looking guy is with one of Greensbury's ladies...but seeing as he IS like a surrogate father to Alanna, who just returned from limbo, there's likely going to be some 'meet the parents' type questioning...hehe.
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby NewArthur on Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:41 am

What are the rules of engagment (not as in marriage but as in battle's) I am intending on getting Arthur Surrounded and trapped by the Saxon's hoping to kill the main threat to them?

Are large battles allowed or what, would like clarification before i post if thats okey??
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby daughterofdon on Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:12 am

NewArthur: I really do not know much about the rules of military engagement, especially back then. You have my permission to assume what you want, research what you want, and then fill in the rest with your creative faculties. :) And this large battle will be fine to have without much dialogue about it, given that there are no other major characters involved save Arthur.

Jadeling--You may have time enough to put more in your post if you want. I may or may not be able to reply today. And I did figure that Nathan is more fond of Lancelot than he thinks, but I just wanted to make Lance sweat a little... A mild case of what Alanna had to go through with Vivienne. I was very hungry when I wrote that post as well--can you tell? :)

But I'm very pleased that you included a father-type character. And I like Nathan--his presence makes for a more interesting group dynamic. I was just thinking how sad it was that Lancelot never met his dad, and that he needed more of these elder men to look up to.
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby aikiwarrior on Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:34 pm

Well, in terms of battle I know both armies would hestate before attacking, and launch warcries and and what not, during which time people would have skirmishes, like throwing a few sling shots or javelins and such before actually engaging in the battle. Little attempts to deminish the moral of the enemy army. At least thats how the romans did things, and because this is shortly after that period I think it would be similar. Ive read books, mainly fictinal that say during/after/before the skirmishing period is also a dueling period,ware various warriors try to earn repute by dueling others, but most of the books Iread this from were fictional, and Impositive the romans didnt do that, but because the brittains are considered barbarians, its possible they did. Also the main battle formation for the saxons was a shield wall, kinda like the greek phalynx, but not eveyone had spears.

The skirmish round and saxon shield wall I know are true to history, the rest Im not sure if it is true to history or not, lol, so do what you want with it. In terms of ambushes and such, well all is fair in love and war, and dont think there are any rules of engagement for those, just for standing armies.
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby daughterofdon on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:14 pm

Thanks for the military information, Aikiwarrior!

I won't be able to reply later tonight. Just letting you guys know. Do you still want to add more to your recent post, Jadeling?
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby Protoman X on Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:13 pm

Can play a blacksmith from Greensbury? Perhaps the smithy who made the sword used by Alanna and her father?
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby Jadeling Hawkins on Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:39 pm

Well, Alanna's father had his sword before he became lord of Greensbury, so the blacksmith there wasn't the one to forge it. But it's likely he had to have it fixed up at some point, and maybe it's thanks to the blacksmith at Greensbury that the sword is still good enough for Alanna to use today. So if you want to, go ahead :) At the very least, the blacksmith would have been the one to make Alanna's brothers' swords.
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby daughterofdon on Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:09 pm

Sorry our story's been going a little slow. But I'm not fretting--we've still got good stuff going on. :)

I was imagining what may happen when Lance finally reaches Camelot. Since Arthur is away battling the Saxons, it may happen that Lancelot arrives when the King is away (although we don't have to make it that way--I'm just speculating). Does anyone know if the Queen can dub a man into knighthood? I'm thinking of this painting, "The Accolade":

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... colade.jpg

It might be interesting if Lancelot is knighted by Guinevere. He wouldn't be allowed into the Round Table Order without Arthur's permission, but if he is knighted by Guinevere, then I'm sure he would be made one of the Queen's knights, which was the order where younger knights were often placed anyway, before they proved themselves worthy of the Round Table.

Of course, I'm still eager for Lancelot to meet Arthur, so we may go the traditional route and have him knighted by the High King. Usually Lancelot meets Arthur when he fights him in a duel, not knowing that his opponent is indeed the King.

Another thing I'm wondering about--Mennah and Armand's wedding. Kohananinja, perhaps, as soon as there's a break in what's going on with Lancelot, Mennah can communicate with them (via crystal ball?), and invite them to her wedding. Their journey to Rozeshire can be assumed to be uneventful, and we can get to the wedding then. Very exciting!
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby Applepoisoneer on Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:48 am

I've always seen Queens who knight. Elizebeth was said to have knighted quite a few people. Elizebeth I that is... Although the current Lizzy had named a few modern people "sir" and I think Elton John is something by royal decree...?
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby NewArthur on Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:02 am

I like the idea of the duel between Arthur and Lance. With the outcome of Arthur kickign Lancelots ass and throwing him into the dungeon, for the knight. Before as a punishment for going against the king he is put in the stocks and peasents can throw rotting fruit and veg and him.

That would be soooo cool.

But yeah he can get to Camelot before Arthur if you want, there can be some sort of animosity between the two, which can lead to Lance being Excussed of sleeping with Guinervire instead of Mordred.

BUt yeah thats my ideas.
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby Jadeling Hawkins on Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:23 am

NewArthur wrote:I like the idea of the duel between Arthur and Lance. With the outcome of Arthur kickign Lancelots ass and throwing him into the dungeon, for the knight. Before as a punishment for going against the king he is put in the stocks and peasents can throw rotting fruit and veg and him.

That would be soooo cool.

But yeah he can get to Camelot before Arthur if you want, there can be some sort of animosity between the two, which can lead to Lance being Excussed of sleeping with Guinervire instead of Mordred.

BUt yeah thats my ideas.



AAAaaaaah Arthur, bud, I love your posts but your grammar is beginning to get really difficult to understand >< Sorry, I hate to complain...but PLEASE double check your posts! I assume what you meant to say was this..?

I like the idea of the duel between Artur and Lance...with the outcome of Arthur kicking Lancelot's ass and throwing him into the dungeon for the night, before, as a punishment for going against the king, he is put in the stocks and peasants throw rotting fruit and vegetables at him.

That would be soooo cool.

But yeah, he can get to Camelot before Arthur if you want. There can be some sort of animosity between the two, which can lead to Lance being accused of sleeping with Guinevere instead of Mordred.

But yeah those are my ideas.


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Anyway, regarding that...Lance and Arthur are actually supposed to be really good buds. Which makes the whole 'affair' thing all the more poignant. And Arthur really couldn't punish Lance for fighting the king if he didn't know it was him, which would probably be the only way he would do so in the first place. But whatever you guys want to do is fine :)
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Re: Beyond the Lake (King Arthur) OOC ( )

Postby daughterofdon on Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:13 pm

Ahem! I am quite offended at the treatment you are imagining for my precious Lancelot, NewArthur. According to the stories that I am familiar with, Lancelot kicks Arthur's arse--not the other way around. And there is opportunity enough for Lance to have rotten vegetables thrown at him, but that is during his 'knight of the cart' episode. And he'll spend a whole lot of time in dungeons--but all that will happen later. But I'm not especially interested in Lance having his arse kicked. Sorry. :)

Anyway, I'm not going to try to force a friendship between our respective Lancelot and Arthur, even though their friendship is indeed legendary. I get the feeling that Lancelot will be much better friends with Guin than Arthur, which will be appropriate for what we're planning. I'm thinking that I would like Guin to knight Lance after all. Perhaps he proves himself worthy somehow when he meets her, like foiling an abduction attempt or something. Or perhaps he volunteers to champion her in a duel, in which she has been accused on some foulness--like poisoning someone. There is one case like that in the legends, but that is when Bors champions her.
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