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Postby Irish Wolf on Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:16 pm

Alright, I'd like to say right off the back, this is not a thread to declare your love or hatred for catgirls/nekos/furries or anything of the lot. This thread is for what you think they might look like, if and when we finally master genetics enough to start making brand new beings in test tubes (should the people with this knowledge then chose to use it and make catgirls or any neko subgroups). Would they be humans with cat ears on their heads and a tail or would they be more like bipedal cats?

Also, how would we treat them? Full privileges, second class citizens, pets?
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Postby iamsheena on Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:35 pm

I'd just like to say that I would be very afraid of these creatures if they were to be created.

But I'd like to think (and hope) that they'd be human with the ears and tale ... or maybe there'd be varieties of both forms mentioned - like different races of crazy cat-human species just as in humans ... or yeah.

Although some may say that they'd be treated with full privileges right off the bat, I think that it would take a crazy long time until these creatures would be treated as anything more than an animal (perhaps somthing similar to a sasquatch or w/e). I mean, we all know how long it takes for humans to accept change when it comes to other humans (or human-cats .. I guess).
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Postby Irish Wolf on Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:49 pm

Why? if you don't mind answering. The being scared part that is.

I would have to agree with you somewhat on the treatment part. It would take a very long time for them to get full privileges, although I disagree on them getting treated like animals. I believe that any being created by mixing genes would get the brain potential that a human would (Or I would design them like that) and with that said, treating them like an animal would potentially cause a great deal of problems. of course the other side of that argument is that they could also have the mind set of a (very smart) animal and we would have to interact with them like we do with pets.
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This isn't going to happen in our lifetimes, or ever, in all likelihood. If it did, their structure would be dependent on how much human to how much animal ratio, and how the dna bonds were formed. Their intelligence would also vary based on this, as would their treatment.
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Postby GoldRoger on Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:37 am

I would treat them with full rights

mainly because i would marry the prettiest neko girl i could find
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Postby Kronos on Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:47 am

I'd treat them like normal people. But... don't be expecting anime-style Nekos/Catgirls/ ect. if this happens.
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Postby Ryand-Smith on Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:06 am

I blame furries, they ruined cartoon animals. That is all.

Also, standard universal human rights apply. As an Ethnic Minority, I cannot support a lack of rights for any humanoid without looking like a hyprocrate, or a liar/jerk. To quote Optimus Prime: "Freedom is the Right of all Sentient Beings!"
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The question though, is would they be sentient, would they be intelligent? We do not know until this oocurs. They may just be interesting pets, or a new addition to the human race.
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Postby Ryand-Smith on Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:40 am

You are being deliberately obtuse. I said IF they are sentient, then they deserve rights, if not, we are required to threat them with the same moral way, they aren't toys for people to (hypothetically) abuse. al and ethics we do pets.
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Question:
Why would anyone do this?
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Postby Irish Wolf on Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:36 pm

*shrugs* why do humans do anything? Because we can (when and if we reach the point that its possible to create new races)
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Village Alchemist wrote:Question:
Why would anyone do this?


*Laughs her face off* To waste money, of course. Why would scientists clone dinosaurs? Why? If they do this, though, it better be after they've found a cure for all terminal illness. They better be doing it just because they've already fixed the whole world and have that kind of time on their hands, or I'm gonna be pissed.

"Sir, we've created...an adorable cat-girl!"
"That's good Westley, are people still dying all over the world because of disease and shortages of resources?"
"Yes, sir."
"Very good, Westley, carry on. And make a boy model, or we'll get a sexism lawsuit rammed up our-" you get the idea.

That being siad. I think that they would not look how people imagine them to. (at least not initially) Rather than ears on top of the head, I think that the size and shape of the ears in the human's position would be changed. Most of the differences would probably be internal at first anyway.

All and all, I think they would be very funny looking, since, if you imagine a human actually mating with a cat...their size and shape isn't really all that compatable, now is it? (Same with dogs and bunnies) So, who the hell knows what you are going to get out of that union.

More likely, plastig surgeons will learn how to drill in the top of the head and connect the nerves and...ear stuff to the top and implant fur and close up the natural ear holes...then all they would have to do is lengthen the spine with spare vertebrae parts of whatever animal and attach some nerves...this seems far scientifically possible, not to mention far more appealing, than anything having to do with DNA.
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Postby Irish Wolf on Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:46 pm

The Rogue Doll wrote:
Village Alchemist wrote:Question:
Why would anyone do this?

*Laughs her face off* To waste money, of course. Why would scientists clone dinosaurs? Why? If they do this, though, it better be after they've found a cure for all terminal illness. They better be doing it just because they've already fixed the whole world and have that kind of time on their hands, or I'm gonna be pissed.


You never know, they could be working under contract, either from a special interest group or government that want some kind of super soldier. A being with better senses then your average human (sight, smell, hearing, ect), some built in weapons (claws, teeth), not requiring special uniforms for harsh climates and the psychological effects on the enemy from being attacked by some one not complete human.

The Rogue Doll wrote:All and all, I think they would be very funny looking, since, if you imagine a human actually mating with a cat...their size and shape isn't really all that compatable, now is it? (Same with dogs and bunnies) So, who the hell knows what you are going to get out of that union.


You threw this is why? This thread had nothing to do with sex with animals but rather the creation of new races in a lab and how they would look/be treated. Please do not bring this up again.
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I am not talking about sex. I am referring to the offspring that would be created. Any messing with genes successfully is, from my opinion, going to end up in the most physiologically sensible way possible. I am just saying that when crossing two animals (which I, sorry if I used the natuarl term of mating them), that are so physically different, it probably would end up with an odd looking result since the size and bone structure and organ placements are so different.

I assure you, sex was not on my mind, nor was it anywhere close.

And I can sort of see the option of special interest group, but it still seems that altering the humans without DNA splicing would be much easier and fare more effective. Perhaps they would use specific hormones or something like that, from specific animals.

But again this makes me giggle a little. Super bunny soldiers?
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Postby Irish Wolf on Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:33 pm

"if you imagine a human actually mating with a cat"


Anyways,
Well if you start changing humans one at a time, thats going to take up a lot of time and funds plus your not
guaranteed to get the results you want. Is your standard human, whoes been using their sense all their life, going to be able to handle getting an upgrade? Would you be able to wake up from an operation and suddenly be able to smell like a dog can? Or find your hands changed to have retractable claws? It would take a long time to regain control of your body enough to be useful as a soldier again. Then comes the time to muster that soldier out, would they then strip them of the upgrades or force them to remain in the army until death? Either option is not a good one.

Now, say you have a new race created for you, they would grew up in that body and know just how to use it. They would never need to be mustered out into the general public and you could retire them to a breeding center to make more soldiers for your cause. They would never know anything about personal freedom or life outside of their military unit and be easy to keep in line.

Bunny soldiers, well depending on how much animal DNA you could get in there, you could get a very fast breeding race, thats quick to grow up. You could get a lot of soldiers in a short time.
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Postby Syren Song on Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:44 pm

I'm having a hard time understanding the purpose of this thread. Is this a question of how anthropomorphic beings should look and be treated if they were to exist in the real world? Or is this more of a question related to role plays/TV shows/video games/etc.?

If this has to do with fictional anthros, I wouldn't think these questions are irrelevant, as they are directly the choice of the creator(s). It is their decision to make them appear and fit into their fantasy world however they so choose. I can't see defining one universal look and way these beings should be treated. That seems unfair to those who wish to incorporate these humanoids into any of their creative works.

However, if this is a question relating to the real world, well that is almost equally as irrelevant, as humans cannot biologically or scientifically be combined with an animal. Even if it were possible, the overall outcome of their appearance would be in the hands of their creator. There isn't a general look that can be defined. If they were to exist among us humans, I would assume that they would have equal (or near-equal) rights, but more than likely be persecuted against and have a great deal of prejudice against them, as we humans tend to hate and fear everything we do not understand.

I'm still sorely confused by this thread's topic though. It doesn't make any sense to me.
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Postby Irish Wolf on Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:04 pm

The real world Syren Song, thats why I put "if and when we finally master genetics enough to start making brand new beings". The question is set in X point in time were it could be possible to do this and scientists have started screwing around with animal DNA, I remember reading about a monkey that had some sort of Jellyfish DNA added to it to make the monkey glow in the dark. http://www.organicconsumers.org/patent/ ... monkey.cfm

While you are correct in saying that the appearance would be based on what the creator made them look like, the question is what do YOU think they would turn out to look like. What I;m asking is for you to be the creator and think about how much human to animal DNA could be mixed and how that being would turn out.
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Postby Syren Song on Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:33 pm

Irish Wolf wrote:The real world Syren Song, thats why I put "if and when we finally master genetics enough to start making brand new beings". The question is set in X point in time were it could be possible to do this and scientists have started screwing around with animal DNA, I remember reading about a monkey that had some sort of Jellyfish DNA added to it to make the monkey glow in the dark. http://www.organicconsumers.org/patent/ ... monkey.cfm

While you are correct in saying that the appearance would be based on what the creator made them look like, the question is what do YOU think they would turn out to look like. What I;m asking is for you to be the creator and think about how much human to animal DNA could be mixed and how that being would turn out.

Ah, I see. Thanks for helping to clarify. So you'd basically like us to describe how we ourselves would make a new anthropomorphic species? That's an interesting idea. :]

I'd have to think on that one personally. Although, seeing an Anubis man walking around would be quite amazing, so I might have to start there, with jackal-headed beings. xD

Being a fan of FFIX as well, I'd also love to be able to create monkey people, or at least humans with tails, much like Zidane. I think having an extra appendage could be very helpful! Wings, too, in addition would be another alteration I might add, or, for below water, perhaps fins.

I suppose I wouldn't create anything too original, as so many ideas have been done already, but instead, I'd base my own creations off of my favorite anthros of popular fantasy or mythology.

(PS. That article on the glowing monkey is rather amazing!)
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Postby Blast on Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:17 am

Irish Wolf wrote:Also, how would we treat them? Full privileges, second class citizens, pets?


You forgot death.
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Postby Myth on Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:02 pm

*stumbles across the topic while browsing*
O.o
Oh shiz...
*mumbles some stuff about nekos under her breath*

In my honest opinion, i don't like nekos all that much...
I don't know why...
Maybe it has to do with any neko in anime usually being a complete ditz... -.-
And the attention of pervs...
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But to add my two cents...
I think that even once science gets to the point that we can create humanoids with ears and tails, or even humanoid animals, we probably won't make them. I agree with Rouge Doll. More than likely, we will be able to go to a surgeon and get ears and tails attached.

If it happened within my lifetime I would so get a tail...
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