Suit Name: ETX-01
Codename: Maverick
Unit Type: Mobile Suit
Overall Height: 24.6 m
Base Weight: 21.9 t

Generator Output: 57,268 kW
Thrusters: 385,950 kg
Titanium Alloy, Gundanium Alloy plating.
Armament: 22 x micromissle launcher (located in chest), Twin Buster Rifle, Twin Beam Scythe.
Equipment: Main Thrusters x5, Leg Vernier x2, Sub-thruster x4, stealth jammer, Omni-directional Active Scanner.

This be it. Hope its not to much. ^_^

Lol, don't worry man. If people think it's not enough, you'll hear about it. (eg. TK-0047 Epiphany Topic)

Is there a chance that I just might be able to get an estimate on how much this is gonna cost me?

Not to bash his design too much, but alot of stuff on it makes little sense. And unfortunatly...I know too much about mobile suits.

That generator is way too big (we don't have one that powerful in the shop) so it'd have to be a combination of generators.

The number of thrusters and verniers (though I thought we're only supposed to be using verniers since the thrusters are for ships, atleast thats what I think I remember seeing somewhere as well as Val reminding me of it) is a lot. The experience of the pilot would have to be very high or there would have to be some kind of inertia dampening system (which doesn't exist in the Gundam universe), otherwise, using all of those would break several of the bones in the body, possibly piercing vital organs, and other bad things could happen...such as death.

All I can say is with a design like that, considering it contains such an overlypowerful generator, it'd be...alot o' credits.

I agree with Kiyoshi on this one mate. I know that I personally am not too familliar with suits, but this one seems like it has a lot of power and be worth quite the amout. Just my opinion, but I think you'd have to be one 'ell of a skilled pilot to fly dat beast.

FutureKiyoshi wrote:Not to bash his design too much, but alot of stuff on it makes little sense. And unfortunatly...I know too much about mobile suits.

That generator is way too big (we don't have one that powerful in the shop) so it'd have to be a combination of generators.

The number of thrusters and verniers (though I thought we're only supposed to be using verniers since the thrusters are for ships, atleast thats what I think I remember seeing somewhere as well as Val reminding me of it) is a lot. The experience of the pilot would have to be very high or there would have to be some kind of inertia dampening system (which doesn't exist in the Gundam universe), otherwise, using all of those would break several of the bones in the body, possibly piercing vital organs, and other bad things could happen...such as death.

All I can say is with a design like that, considering it contains such an overlypowerful generator, it'd be...alot o' credits.

Reference to the text in bold.

That, actually, isn't true. The Japanese know better than anyone on this planet that in order for someone to pull moves in something as mobile, yet very impractical, as a Gundam would need something to keep the pilot from becoming a puddle of jelly in their seat.

It's only assumed such a thing doesn't exist because it isn't necessary to give every little detail about every little thing, scientifically accurate or false. Gundam has a focus more on story, characters and visual representation than actual technology.

Now to the italicized:

Technically, yes, however, the Space Pack that some Leo's get (The Leo Space Type) is actually a "Thruster Pack" that allows it to move in space, "Thruster" doesn't always mean "Big Ship Engine." Astronauts working on satellites and stuff have CO2 "Thrusters" on a back-pack to allow them to traverse the distance between the shuttle and the satellite (or hell, even the space station). In Gundam referense, the term "Thruster" can be used just as loosely as the examples given above, because the Vernier the Gundams use, are technically "Vernier Thrusters." Just as much a thruster as the un-originally named "Main Thruster." And if you want to nit-pick, go take a look at Master's Gundam.....he's got 46 Vernier Thrusters on the thing.

Actually...Gundam has relied heavily on the technical aspect of the series since it's incarnation as the first 'real' robot show. That was Tomino's big thing in creating Mobile Suit Gundam, that there would not only be more depth within the characters and their fight within the expansive story, but also the robots would be much more than super powers and rocket punches. If there was an inertia dampening system in place in any of the series of Gundam (UC or any of the AU's) then it most likely would be mentioned. This would probably be within one of the many novels that exist for the Gundam universe, since they usually go more in depth into the actual mechanics of the mobile suits. From the ones I have read, and all of the information I've gathered through the years of being a diehard Gundam fan, there is no such system. The only comparison would be the simple harness that holds the pilot in place, or the airbag system that is seen in Char's Counterattack (which from what can be summarized from Gundam W...they don't equip their mobile suits with the airbags).

Now on with the thing about the thursters. Yeah, I know what they are and what they do, but somewhere on this forum there's a topic where it says that the items specifically labeled as 'thrusters' are for ships, not sure where, but I've seen it.

The only way it'd be conceivable to have something with that many thrusters (vernier or otherwise) either this suit or Eric's Tsumetai Prime would either a) the thrusters are all low output thrusters which would equal to just using a few high output thrusters or b) the suit is the size of a mobile armor.

Anyway, I'm just giving my opinion based on what I know, if the suit's approved it's approved, I have no control over that. Just trying to keep some realism in an unrealistic world.

Hmm, okay. As with the power problem, I shall trim the power outtage down to 50,000 kW. Instead of just one power core, one 20,000 kW fusion drive, and two 15,000 kW compact fusion drives. As for the thrusters, well if I die I die, if not then I get stronger.. Anyway, this is what I want wether or not it makes sense, it'll still work.

3 Generators? You got a size problem there now.

It's a big MS, not to mention two of them are compact, but I see where your coming from. I will see what I can do to sort it out.

"If I die, I die."

There's no "If." If it's a mobile suit with that much pumping out, they're gunna have to drain you out of the cockpit, bucko.

Hmm, well i'll be okay. It'll all work out.. or do you think I should put up my other ms first? Its got less juice but more power... whats your opinion?

My opinion is if it has more power than that it's not going to exist, cause that's already too much. I'm sorry for being an ass about this, but yeah...unless your Char Aznable in the Nightingale, you're not going to survive.

Not to mention that suit is going to be really expensive. So I'm not sure how you're going to gain the cash to get it in the first place.

By power I mean't cut the speed for weapons, less pounce with a bigger punch, but well I don't know, what would the price be on the Maverick?

Based on that price I will make my decision.

Uhg...give me uh several minutes probably...*goes to figure it all out*

1. Thrusters of a spaceship class will kill you there is no arguing with that. Accept it and move on.
2. This will cost you more then you'll get in a long time, unless you fucking WOW the admins with your posts.
3. A mobile suit that is supposed to be very agile doesn't need that many verniers or thrusters. Obviously you know not very much in design of mobile suits. go to mahq.net and go over the V dash gundam, as well as the wing gundam designs. They all use practical designs and are very agile. The V Dash is considered to be the fastest UC timeline design ever made. Another good design for agility is the Rx-78 GP-01 Fb configuration. Take a lesson from the pros.
4. Be realistic. Be professional.
5. My design is for agile combat and movement because it is for CQC (close quarters combat) you might even want to copy me a lil bit.

Ok, I'm done tearing apart your design. I suggest you completely rethink it.

Titanium Alloy - 100000
Gundanium Alloy - 1000000
22x Micromissle Launcher - 300000
Twin Buster Rifle - 2500000
Twin Beam Scythe - 100000
5x Main Thruster - 1125000
2x Leg Vernier - 400000
4x Sub Thruster - 300000
Stealth Jammer - 350000
Omni-Directional Active Scanner - 1000000
20,000KW Fusion Drive - 8000000
2x 15000KW Compact Fusion Drive - 10000000
Standard Cockpit - 50000
Base Suit - 500000


Total - 25725000

Now that total is in the way you WANT to have it, but since you can't have more than two of the compact fusion drives....

"legal" total - 17725000

I don't approve this suit at all. If Eric or Ace (if he's still doing this) wants to override me they can I guess, but to me, if you can't design a practical mobile suit, you shouldn't.

These rules are bent for certain people *cough* Eric *cough*, since well this is all his anyway so he can have all the verniers and thrusters he wants.

Again I do not approve this mobile suit, this is to just show how much it would cost.

Hmm thanks for the advice, but all i wanted was an estimate on how much the ms was gonna cost me, and uhh good job with the wording.

Edit: Thanks for the estimate.

I have a question... not having to do with the ms so much but would it be possible to own a shuttle or spaceship, as transport between colonies and such? just wondering..