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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Round 2 Commences!) ( )

Postby Circ on Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:49 pm

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, one probable effect of the removal of kinetic energy is heart failure.

The blood won't stop moving, because the built-up pressure from the heart's contractions will continue to force it through the veins and arteries, but without the stored up kinetic energy to help the flow along, especially given that it is pumping against gravity, it would be much more arduous. It might not result in immediate heart failure, maybe hours later depending on Sirocco's physical condition, but would definitely result in fatigue.

wandering-random, that is an interesting theory. I'm not really sure how well I can speak to quantum energy theory, or the behavior of subatomic particles in general (who here can, tho'?), but I think that has more to do with electrostatic energy and electromagnetic fields than kinetic energy.
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Back from Cross Country meeting and pre-calculus homework blew ass.

First, in regards to people making their issues with others known publicly. I think it is quite rude for others to openly gripe about their opponent. It is within your right and power to, I understand, but I have not complained about Heat's lack of spelling skill which led me to sending PM's and AIM's to him about nearly every post, and Kiyoshi's gripes about me not having reading comprehension when I can clearly slough my way through his walls of text and respond in an adequately competent manner. Guess what I'm doing now? Reading your posts and responding to them. =O READING COMPREHENSION! If you have a problem with somebody's post, either talk to them or Remaeus. Don't post it to the world unless you think it's a major, major issue and needs to be brought to light.

Also, Mew, who are you to stomp around like you are god? Your character may have the power to destroy the universe, but you don't, and thus, you are to treat everybody with respect, including Circ, who FYI could ban you or anybody here and destroy their shot at the tournament title in a second if he wanted to. It's within your right as a member to argue logical points and discuss possible issues with the matches or other topics, but do not put down other members because they are arguing against you, or against somebody else. If you want to argue with me, that's fine, although other than clarification, I don't see the point of you doing so. Kiyoshi, on the other hand, has great reason to argue against me. You've also mentioned you wanted to hear what I had to say so badly, so here you go. What I have to say.

As for unlisted abilities, Heat managed to pull Suzaku out of his ass (not literally) during battle, but nobody questioned it. The fire bird which Heat apparently worshiped was not mentioned at all in his profile, yet nobody questioned him. He could have stacked abilities onto it until he was blue in the face and nobody would have cared. And as mentioned before, I said nothing. Not only because it is rude to do so, but I honestly thought we were allowed to hide one or two abilities from our opponents. I used one of these hidden abilities during battle as of yet, and that is subconscious wind control, which none of you even recognized, I bet (Third Arm Wind).

The life to death/death to life switch ability has not been employed within battle as of yet. Sirocco started his first fight "dead", and his second fight alive. I did make use of it after my match with Heat, where Sirocco switched from death to life. Not only does the exhaustion which is not normally felt when dead catch up to him, but he ends up almost dying again due to extreme fatigue and fluid loss. If Sirocco dies while dead, he is wiped from existence. If he dies, switches back, but is not able to sustain life conditions, he is wiped from existence. The only advantage to being dead is that you can have a bullet in your heart and keep on trucking, and he doesn't feel exhaustion, whether it be physical or energy based. However, one more shot to a lethal body location will wipe him from existence.

And as Circ quoted, I did make a brief mention of it in my profile, but I did not explain it. I now see that this is my fault and shouldn't be used in battle (it hasn't), but again, Suzaku. If they can get away with an unlisted ability, doesn't it make it fair grounds for others to have one unlisted ability as well?

Also, Kiyoshi mentioned to me that he can only control/absorb one type of energy at a time, so if he is manipulating kinetic energy, all other forms of energy (heat, electric, etc) can bypass the barrier and hit him dead on, in theory. Thus, because the brain and nervous system works using electrical pulses, he can't prevent me from thinking in the current position, and thus, the third arm wind stays. Other subconscious effects also remain for that same reason. And while I can't move in any direction because he is absorbing any kinetic energy which results from whatever form of propulsion, whether it be wind manipulation or farting.

If I missed anything, let me know, and I'd be glad to help you however I can. But I think I got all of what you were raving about. So now that I've written a decent sized WoT, you can just tl;dr it and act as if it doesn't exist. =/
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Round 2 Commences!) ( )

Postby Circ on Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:12 pm

wandering-random wrote:Why do you think that electromagnetism has anything to do with the temperature of a material?


That isn't really where I was going with my comment. Just pointing out that subatomic particles tend to interact via those forms of energy.

TwilightShade wrote:Circ, who FYI could ban you or anybody here and destroy their shot at the tournament title in a second if he wanted to.


Remaeus would spank me in a heartbeat. 'sides, I wouldn't want to get rid of any of these beautiful faces.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Round 2 Commences!) ( )

Postby Heat on Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:13 pm

Umm...wasn't going to actually post about this little debate, but Twilight just drug me into it. Now, as I've found out, The Suzaku thing(which was hinted to in my profile)...well actually there are two things about that, one is that the abilites that I had listed in there, well I didn't list any due to confusion on my part. or else I'd prolly have listed every single detail of Heat's power.

And Suzaku from what I understand is what costed me the round. So that point is kinda mute Twilight.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Round 2 Commences!) ( )

Postby FutureKiyoshi on Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:56 am

TwilightShade wrote:As for unlisted abilities, Heat managed to pull Suzaku out of his ass (not literally) during battle, but nobody questioned it. The fire bird which Heat apparently worshiped was not mentioned at all in his profile, yet nobody questioned him. He could have stacked abilities onto it until he was blue in the face and nobody would have cared. And as mentioned before, I said nothing. Not only because it is rude to do so, but I honestly thought we were allowed to hide one or two abilities from our opponents. I used one of these hidden abilities during battle as of yet, and that is subconscious wind control, which none of you even recognized, I bet (Third Arm Wind).


Your Third Arm Wind is clearly stated within your equipment. Subconscious control of a supposedly mastered element is not beyond scope of what you have in your profile.

The life to death/death to life switch ability has not been employed within battle as of yet. Sirocco started his first fight "dead", and his second fight alive. I did make use of it after my match with Heat, where Sirocco switched from death to life. Not only does the exhaustion which is not normally felt when dead catch up to him, but he ends up almost dying again due to extreme fatigue and fluid loss. If Sirocco dies while dead, he is wiped from existence. If he dies, switches back, but is not able to sustain life conditions, he is wiped from existence. The only advantage to being dead is that you can have a bullet in your heart and keep on trucking, and he doesn't feel exhaustion, whether it be physical or energy based. However, one more shot to a lethal body location will wipe him from existence.


This ability I still have gripes against for the main fact that it is not stated within your profile. If I suddenly showed up in one of my giant robots, I'm pretty sure someone would complain about it. The use of near pre-cognition, which isn't mentioned in your profile either, I've already previously brought up.
And as Circ quoted, I did make a brief mention of it in my profile, but I did not explain it. I now see that this is my fault and shouldn't be used in battle (it hasn't), but again, Suzaku. If they can get away with an unlisted ability, doesn't it make it fair grounds for others to have one unlisted ability as well?


My opinion on that matter is no, and from what I can one of the major deciding factors in Heat's loss was using such an ability.

Also, Kiyoshi mentioned to me that he can only control/absorb one type of energy at a time, so if he is manipulating kinetic energy, all other forms of energy (heat, electric, etc) can bypass the barrier and hit him dead on, in theory. Thus, because the brain and nervous system works using electrical pulses, he can't prevent me from thinking in the current position, and thus, the third arm wind stays. Other subconscious effects also remain for that same reason. And while I can't move in any direction because he is absorbing any kinetic energy which results from whatever form of propulsion, whether it be wind manipulation or farting.


I reviewed my PM to you, and unless I'm missing something, I've never told you that.

Now, if I was as arrogant as some say I am, I would now go into a long diatribe about how I'm not wrong or something. I've been operating on the basic idea that kinetic energy was any body of matter in motion for awhile now, and I'm quite surprised no one has caught me on it yet, but I'm glad the inaccuracy has been brought to my attention.
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Well, I guess that's that then. Good match, Kiyoshi, and I hope you fight well in your next round. Sorry about the unlisted abilities and such. Honesty, I was hoping for a more exciting match. Dodging bullets and not being able to shoot you with anything got old way before the 30 day limit.

btw I stopped reading the match about a week ago, but Heat got wrecked, didn't he?
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Yeah, from the looks of things he sure did.

Looks like it's going to be big-mouth vs big-mouth. (Katana Ashigaru vs Ichi-gou) for those of you who don't know. I think the IC-shit-flinging comments by the two might just be more entertaining than the bout itself. At least, I hope so.
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I still need to reply to Heat's last attack to make it clear that shooting a jet of fire at someone who can generate plasma wouldn't work all that well. But other than that I'm not going to attack him any further.

Granted, when the final decision is made, I will be following my standard procedure (if the final decision is that I indeed won, and I'm fairly confident of it).
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TwilightShade wrote:Well, I guess that's that then. Good match, Kiyoshi, and I hope you fight well in your next round. Sorry about the unlisted abilities and such. Honesty, I was hoping for a more exciting match. Dodging bullets and not being able to shoot you with anything got old way before the 30 day limit.

btw I stopped reading the match about a week ago, but Heat got wrecked, didn't he?


I hope you return next year for a rematch.

I do have a suggestion for your abilities, that I am unsure if you ever thought of using. If you are capable of producing wind fast enough to stop bullets (which I did have some issue with, but lets put that aside), have you thought of producing concentrated wind in a super heated or cooled nature, or is that beyond your scope?
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I believe the GT is every other year, but I'll be back, trust me.

And that is an interesting idea. Off the top of my head, I am unsure as to whether Sirocco is able to heat or cool the air.

And I think, Kiyoshi, that you're fighting the winner of Leeo's match? I'm not sure if that's correct, so check the brackets first.
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Since it is the 7th, and no sign of Remaeus, I have taken the liberty of locking the threads. Also, here are the results that I am aware of that do not require judging. I believe this is all of them. When I say "due to absences," below, I mean an opponent not responding at all or allowing their foe to have a critical advantage by not posting within the 3-day limit. Six out of the eight were pretty much decided due to absences. Feh.

Dusk vs. Alucroas - winner: Alucroas, due to absences by Dusk.
Sirocco v. Kiyoshi - winner: Kiyoshi, due to Sirocco accepting defeat.
Ashigaru v. Discpline - winner: Ashigaru, due to absences by Discipline.
Spencer v. Skallagrim - winner: Spencer, due to absences by Skallagrim.
Asimov v. Jack - winner: Asimov, due to absences by Jack.
Holy Unknown v. Yami - winner: Holy Unknown, due to Yami accepting defeat.
Leeo Tandory vs. Jessica Tell - winner: Leeo Tandory, due to absences by Jessica Tell.
Ichi-gou v. Heat - winner: Ichi-gou, due to absences by Heat.

If I am reading the brackets correctly, this means that we have the following match-ups for the next around. Feel free to contact your opponent and make whatever arrangements you feel free before Remaeus gets around to setting up the next round.

Ichi-gou v. Ashigaru.
Alucroas v. Asimov.
Spencer v. Kiyoshi.
Leeo Tandory v. Holy Unknown.

Also, for the sake of it:

SSJ3Mewtwo wrote:I still need to reply to Heat's last attack to make it clear that shooting a jet of fire at someone who can generate plasma wouldn't work all that well. But other than that I'm not going to attack him any further.


I can generate fecal matter, but if a dumptruck load crashes down on top of me, I doubt I'll have good survivability, depending on its viscosity.
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My thought on the absences: If you can't post once every seventy two hours, then why would you sign up for something that could occupy you for 1-5 months?

Also, my GT rating is going to go down again. I beat Heat, who is 1100, which puts me back up to 1100, but then I lose to Kiyoshi, who I think is unranked at the moment, so I'll be back at 990. D:

Being 42nd sucks.
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Dude, I was struggling to get my posts up in time. There were a few points, where I actually had to ask my friend to type up my post for me as I read it to her, besides I'm pretty cool about a person being a couple days late in their posting, although after what Kouketsu did in our fight, I'm probably not going to be doing that anymore.
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I like to think I won due to a few factors beyond 'Heat wasn't around' often enough. I did have his character in a pretty bad condition before I got in that 3-day activity hit.

And Circ, the 'amount' of fire he used was pretty minimal compared to just what I'd been doing in my intro post.
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SSJ3Mewtwo wrote:I like to think I won due to a few factors beyond 'Heat wasn't around' often enough. I did have his character in a pretty bad condition before I got in that 3-day activity hit.


Perhaps, but I didn't actually read your fight with Heat. I just saw, after your double-post, that he was in a great deal of hurt and figured that was enough to seal the deal.
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Fair enough.

Anyway, Heat, I'll have my closing post written in a few days. I think you'll like it, given how dramatic a scene I'll paint.

Could you validate this in the GTLeague?
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Circ wrote:Alucroas v. Asimov.
Sweet! Not only do I get to fight someone who actually can post more than once in the thread, but it's a elemental and EM manipulating dragon-xenomorph hybrid!
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I'm definitely looking forward to this match myself, mainly because it'll somewhat science-based, which is something I like and I also saw some pretty nifty weapons in your profile that would definitely make this bout an entertaining one, not to mention being a swampy environment.

I just hope my writing skill has come back to me, 'cause man-oh-man did it disappear during my fight with Kouketsu.
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Heh. Thanks. I can't tell you how disappointed I've been at my opportunities to utilize my more advanced gear. I have all this cool stuff and the only things I get to use it against are meat punching bags for me to give lead enemas to.

Though I maintain that there is still no reason why Matthias had to surrender like he did. That match had potential.
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