Rem is more than welcome to say that if he feels it's warrented. I wouldn't even try to stop him.

I just hope double-standards aren't warranted in tournament fights, because that would create quite the mess, now wouldn't it?

Thankfully, the majority of users here don't think so, otherwise I'd have claimed that the collapse of the spire in my post would've caused the deaths of countless crowd-members.

This is about respecting your opponent, by not pulling cheap shit like this. If you honestly have to resort to tactics like that to win a match, then you should just shoot yourself in the head, so the rest of us can engage in some good quality fun without you.

Though you should probably watch out for setting off "Sub-Atomic Explosions" in your post if you plan to avoid civilian casualties. Whatever the hell that means, since there are at least two definitions.

There's a difference between the actions of characters directly leading to collateral damage and opposing players interpretating said actions into chains of events that lead to collateral damage. If I throw a grenade at you while you are three feet away from a civilian then I've screwed up. If I throw a grenade and you write how it banks off a pillar and lands in the crowd, then my action lead to the death of civilians but it was you who had full control over the action and the effect.

Taking that into effect, the Rube Goldbergian series of events in your post, Alucroas, would without question kill most of the audience. Which is why I'm going to protect them.

It's been well over a day now since I sent my PM to Rem, and it hasn't even left my Outbox, nor has he been responsive on AIM. So for the sake of the fight not bogging down I just deleted it and I'll finish up the post I'd already started.

Rem, dude, really, where the heck are you?

SSJ3Mewtwo wrote:The Tournament is already in progress, Wakboth. It's in the 3rd round right now.

So it's too late to join?

I hope you're willing to back-up the logic as to how you're able to protect all these fans from a sub-atomic explosion that occurred right in your face, let alone explain to me how my science is so preposterous.

I've had multiple people read this fight already, and so far things aren't looking so good for you.

Can we not have a nearby audience in the 2010 GT? I myself felt quite annoyed that there were people in a stage which was cramped to begin with, that I had to not hurt for not one, but two rounds. I say they watch the fights over TV, and just have a wireless camera or something, because no character whose power level is over 1000 can fight in such a close proximity without killing innocent people by accident.

Thank you for editing the commencement post of your fight with Kiyoshi, Circ. You can thank Ingrid for the updated pictures

Alucroas wrote:I hope you're willing to back-up the logic as to how you're able to protect all these fans from a sub-atomic explosion that occurred right in your face, let alone explain to me how my science is so preposterous.

I've had multiple people read this fight already, and so far things aren't looking so good for you.

For starters, stop using the term "Sub-Atomic". Sub-Atomic does not mean "less than a nuclear bomb." An explosion that is not atomic is conventional. So you shouldn't have even written it like that in the first place. Sub-Atomic means "smaller than an atom". Ergo "Sub-Atomic Explosion" is meaningless.

Secondly, you wrote that the electrical bolt hitting the metal column "positively charged the metal." That's not how magnets work. A natural magnet, such as Magnetite, exerts a magnetic field because, basically, all the electrons in its atomic structure are spinning in such a way that they are lined up. Certain elements, specifically Nickel, Cobalt and Iron are susceptible to these fields and are drawn to them, but they do not exert their own magnetic fields. "Positively charging" a material wouldn't do much to this. In fact, your action would have done the exact opposite. An electrical current is the movement of electrons through a medium, and would thus incur a negative charge.

An electromagnet, on the other hand, is formed when a metal receives an electrical current. The current causes its electrons to behave the same way that our friend Magnetite does. Not all metals would do this. For the sake of argument let's say that the metal composing the spires in the arena does behave this way. Ergo, you created an electromagnet. There are two problems with that, however.

The first is that you need a coil in order to have an effective electromagnet. Otherwise the field created will be necessarily weak. And not only weak but of extremely short distance as well. Electromagnetic fields lose strength at a squared (might be cubic, which is worse) rate. So as you move away from the center of the field its magnitude decreases precipitously. The second problem is that an electromagnet only functions so long as the electrical current is sustained. The moment it goes away the field ceases to exist. There's no lingering charge in the path of a bolt of electricity from its origin to the ground. So even if, despite the laws of physics proving it to be wrong, the magnetic field was strong enough to affect the trajectory of my bullets, the it wouldn't exist long enough to do anything about it.

None of the metal you affected with your electricity would regain its electrical charge. Electricity doesn't just get absorbed into metal and hang around looking cool. It goes to the ground. Always.

Oh, and I've already stated that my bullets were safe to begin with since they were moving at multiple mach values.

Further, the thought that igniting a bunch of oil would result in an explosion anywhere near nuclear in scope is laughable. It would create a big ass fireball but it wouldn't have anywhere near the concussive force that you want it to. So realistically the spectators shouldn't be in any appreciable danger. But since you decided to write what you wrote and because this tournament isn't being judged by those criteria then I'm going to respond to your post as it is written.

I was referring to sub-atomic in the sense that the explosion was produced by sub-atomic particles via accelerated electrons.

Cause and effect:

How were these electrons accelerated? Natural rejection: When a two charges of the same type (a proton and a proton or in this case an electron and an electron, the effect is a repulsion of the two.)coupled utilizing what can be referred to as crude-oil, or mineral-oil (judging by the source at least) which is known to generate massive explosions when ignited. The source of already ignited oil came from the collapsed flaming tower, which eventually broke apart and shattered into multiple spires, wires, and a fire, not to mention the domino-effect produced due to its sheer size.

Cause and effect:

This domino-effect ignited other sources of oil covering various other spires, as well as serving for an ignition source for the geysers below. Let's not forget the temperature of this oil would have already been considerably hot, due to the building pressure of heat from below.

Cause and effect: The accelerated electrons simply amplified the temperature that the oil would burn at, which is a chemical reaction produced by our sub-atomic friend, the electron, thus - a sub-atomic explosion. Now please do me a favor and laugh yourself to sleep, because laughing at what I did doesn't seem to helping you much.

Cause and effect: I gave the spire a negative charge, not a positive charge through that connection I formed with the slime and barbed wire. Therefore, everything but the last part of that post you made was giant fallacy. Your inability caused you to waste time explaining a useless fact, and the effect is me not responding to it.

I recall stating in my post, that there wasn't any fancy shmancy scientific mumbo-jumbo involved.

SSJ3Mewtwo wrote:

Thanks, Mewtwo. Now I don't have to go through the trouble of grabbing an image myself.

If that's what you were trying to say you communicated it incredibly poorly. Like holy hell I hope you step up your game or this is going to be a drag.

You also lied. Obviously the only thing holding your post together was scientific mumbo-jumbo, since you just wrote a lengthy post of trying to clarify the mess you made. And there is still no way that you could have moved my bullets. Further, you most definitely would be the one responsible for killing most of the audience with your crazy junkyard particle collider.

Regardless it doesn't change my next post anyway. What's done is done and what matters in this tournament is damage. Post will be up by Tuesday.

You also lied. Obviously the only thing holding your post together was scientific mumbo-jumbo, since you just wrote a lengthy post of trying to clarify the mess you made.

Wrong. I said no fancy shmancy scientific mumbo-jumbo. I never said there wasn't any science involved in it.The reason I used the phrase/term/whatever 'mumbo-jumbo' was to point out how overly simple it was, and that it didn't need to explained in massive depth.

Hence - cause and effect. Simple, isn't it?

Cause and effect: Asimov's inability to read my posts causes him to make statements filled logical fallacy, and the effect is me getting a kick out of it.

Nice try, though.

Like holy hell I hope you step up your game or this is going to be a drag.

I'm shaking in my ridiculously durable exoskeleton. Really, I am. Hence - all that slime pouring out of Alucroas.

I liked the Large Hadron Collider reference.

I would imagine a sub-atomic explosion would mean an explosion triggered by manipulating particles such as quarks, anti-quarks, q-bits, and xq-bits, the components that make up electrons, protons, and neutrons.

Ba ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

That's incredibly silly.

Way too late.

That would have been nice to know like two months ago, but I guess it's better late than never. =P

Alucroas wrote:

You also lied. Obviously the only thing holding your post together was scientific mumbo-jumbo, since you just wrote a lengthy post of trying to clarify the mess you made.

Wrong. I said no fancy shmancy scientific mumbo-jumbo. I never said there wasn't any science involved in it.The reason I used the phrase/term/whatever 'mumbo-jumbo' was to point out how overly simple it was, and that it didn't need to explained in massive depth.

Hence - cause and effect. Simple, isn't it?

Cause and effect: Asimov's inability to read my posts causes him to make statements filled logical fallacy, and the effect is me getting a kick out of it.

Nice try, though.

Like holy hell I hope you step up your game or this is going to be a drag.

I'm shaking in my ridiculously durable exoskeleton. Really, I am. Hence - all that slime pouring out of Alucroas.

Stop saying "cause and effect", we all know you have about as much knowledge of "cause and effect" as my left nut has of "not hanging".

Besides, you're going down anyway. Alucroas is going down! His movie star looks won't get him through this one!(and by movie star I mean Alien, the star of the Alien movies)

I leave you kids along for this long, and you're already bickering? Sigh.