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GT2008: The Main OOC (Finals Begin 11/28)

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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Alucroas on Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:31 pm

Well, someone is definitely way off base.

*Cough*Filthy Heretic*Cough*
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Asimov on Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:26 pm

I think I know plenty about my base thank you very much
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Alucroas on Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:41 pm

By the way, some of us we're wondering how in the hell Anti-magic works, and some of us have even come to conclude that the round would annihilate itself before it even left the round, due to the common theory: "You need magic to create anti-magic."

Was wondering if you could give us an in-depth explanation as to exactly how anti-magic can even exist, since in my opinion it's more of a reality-enforcer than anything else.

If you don't want to explain it, that's fine. I'm just curious, and one of the few people here brave enough to ask.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Asimov on Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:04 pm

Why certainly.

The Lombardi Corporation actually utilizes several forms of magic countering mechanisms. One is a Diffusion Field. Diffusion Fields are composed of subatomic particles called Caizo Bosons (named for the Technocrat physicist Hideki Caizo). Caizo Bosons are said to "Freeze the Deep Quantum State of the Universe" within the field. What they actually do is act as sort of an adhesive that prevent the one-dimensional strings that make up matter and vibrate to generate forces from being disrupted. This prevents reality manipulation within the field. Diffusion Fields are really only useful for some kinds of magic. They aren't going to extinquish a magical fireball, because the fireball itself does not disrupt forces or matter anymore than a fireball created by technological means would. It would prevent magic along the lines of teleportation or time manipulation or spontaneous polymorphism. The use of the Diffusion Field then is extensive, but not all encompassing, and since most soldier magicians aren't going to be using high-end manipulation, it's not entirely practical for the battlefield.

The second is actually the direct opposite of that, and it's the oldest anti-magic technique used by the Technocrats, dating back upwards of 15,000 years. Specially engineered crystals called Null Crystals. Null Crystals possess an incredibly complex fractal crystalline structure that's believed to extend even to the sub-atomic level, in the arrangement of quarks and gluons that make up its atoms. This fractal structure was discovered to be able to absorb magical energy and trap it inside in huge amounts for even a relatively small crystal component, such as that of a bullet. However, Null Crystals are only really useful for countering "tangible magic", such as a magically conjured fireball or lightingbolt by sucking out the magical energy that gives it coherence.

The third and most modern form of anti-magic does both, though it's not quite as infallible as the diffusion field. And you're right, it does use magic, to a certain extent. Specifically, the form of magic developed by the Technocrats in the year roughly 7,000 years ago called Geomancy. Geomancy is so named because it's initial development drew from theories of feng shui, which attributes objects with the ability to supernaturally affect the environment. Early Geomancers found that this practice had value when performed in a latent magic environment, but their interest was why it worked, and the reason was mathematics.

The fact that the universe exists at all is because of mathematics. The existance of matter and energy, of chemical and biological reactions, it all boils down to mathematical laws that we quantify in physics and calculus and quantum science. Objects in feng shui, when given magical significance, impact these mathematics to change elements of probability and physics. What Geomancers did was remove the objects from the equation, and were left with a magical art that was distilled down to crystalline purity. It bypasses ritual and incantation and directly influences mathematics. There's a whole range of magic utilized by Geomancers, classified into fields of kinetics, probability, chemistry and many others. And from that basis, a "Unified Field Theory of Magic" was extrapolated that states that all magic, no matter what form it takes, works because it alters the mathematics within a given space.

Perhaps the most significant field of Geomancy is called Buster Geomancy. Buster Geomancy works opposite normal Geomancy. Instead of changing the mathematics of an area, it changes them back within the area affected by a spell. It's mathematical formulas reverse changes made to the ground state mathematics of a space, erasing the magical field from existence.

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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Circ on Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:10 am

So reading geomancy as the actual dictionary definition is incomplete, or even incorrect, for the way Technocrats use it. The Technocrat definition, instead of saying that divination is feasible via certain geometric patterns, claims that certain mathematical patterns can influence the universe and those patterns were learned from the observation of Feng Shui.

I remember seeing a YouTube video a while back on the Unified Field Theory and I thought the guy was pretty much crazy.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Asimov on Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:20 pm

Modern Unified Field Theory is woefully incomplete and vastly complex, so anyone who claims to have an understanding of it without multiple Ph.Ds is probably a crackpot. Especially if you found him on YouTube. Which is the same place where you can learn about Time Cubes and how the Large Hadron Collider was designed by Freemasons to disrupt the earth's magnetic field and summon Satan to the Earth.

That said, Technocrat science is about 30,000 years more advanced than modern science. And it coexists with magic and divine intervention.

Geomancy is also commonly used to refer to magic and divination applied to the elemental Earth, hence the Greek "Geo" for Earth. "Geo" also arises in Geometry, which is not the mathematics of Earth but the mathematics of shapes and objects and space.

I simply chose and refined my own definition, because I liked the way it sounded, and have been building around that for some years now.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby TwilightShade on Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:46 am

I call Circ winning the tournament. I can't follow the fights as closely as I would like to, due to losing the computer for a month, but I'll definitely be keeping up. Regardless, good luck to those who have made it into the semi-finals.

Also, Mew lost? I'm legitimately surprised by such an upset. =P
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Arrogance on Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:27 pm

TwilightShade wrote:I call Circ winning the tournament. I can't follow the fights as closely as I would like to, due to losing the computer for a month, but I'll definitely be keeping up. Regardless, good luck to those who have made it into the semi-finals.

Also, Mew lost? I'm legitimately surprised by such an upset. =P


Looks like it wont be a repeat of last year, then. ;)
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Asimov on Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:38 am

Your writing style is awfully condescending, Arrogance.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Alucroas on Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:58 am

Asimov wrote:Your writing style is awfully condescending, Arrogance.


The same could be said about Mewtwo when he fights using Ichi-gou, and I can guarantee you what Arrogance wrote was far less offensive. Though I think it was more for reinforcing the opinion that he thinks your character is pretty much fucked.

If I recall, you did the exact same thing in our fight, so I'd quit complaining if I were you. Not to mention, telling someone who's name is ARROGANCE that they write condescendingly is a bit redundant, wouldn't you agree?
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Asimov on Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:10 am

Oh, yeah, Mewtwo is a son of a bitch.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Asimov on Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:11 pm

Ah damn, the limit between matches was 3 days? I thought it was 4.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Circ on Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:23 pm

This far into the tournament, how can you think it was anything else? There was no change of rules, and they pretty clearly state 3 days. But hey, that's a more acceptable kind of mistake, isn't it?
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Asimov on Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:25 pm

Nah, it was just never an issue.

And is it okay for Arrogance to claim victory due to innactivity? I asked Rem twice in both my first two rounds if I could do that and he said no.

EDIT: And for evidence:

Asimov wrote:I'm asking permission to kill my opponent, Matthias's Remiscence. He already expressed a forfeit unofficially, and made one and a half posts in our thread before vanishing without a word. I've been regularly punishing him, and I'd like to give this thread a proper conclusion.

How say you?


Remaeus wrote:Wait until he expresses the forfeit officially, or until the round ends - at which point you're free to do whatever you wish.

And I'd already hit him five or six times by this point.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Arrogance on Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:56 pm

I've already claimed a previous match due to inactivity, so i'm pretty sure it's okay. My fight against Discipline ended in a pretty similar fashion and Remaeus didn't say anything about it, so i'm certain that (as many times as an inactive win has happened throughout this tournament) it's legal.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Circ on Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:14 pm

That is an odd statement for Remaeus to make. It implies that a fight doesn't end when one person wins, but that both people are forced to continue until the time period has expired or somebody acknowledges defeat. That seems a little silly to me, and if he is paying attention, I would like him to confirm that. Granted, it isn't the first time he's made strange statements, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is true, but given the circumstances, I don't know if your character could continue the fight without a head.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Asimov on Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:24 pm

This tournament has been nothing but mixed messages for me.
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Remæus on Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am

All fighting is supposed to cease when the final bell rings. Since this is also a roleplaying experience, I can not limit what actions you take, including continuing to fight and even killing your opponent - but be aware that the tournament officials will not tolerate such behavior and will throw you out (or worse).
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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Arrogance on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:30 pm

Remæus wrote:All fighting is supposed to cease when the final bell rings. Since this is also a roleplaying experience, I can not limit what actions you take, including continuing to fight and even killing your opponent - but be aware that the tournament officials will not tolerate such behavior and will throw you out (or worse).


I don't understand... if you outwit your opponent and kill them... you're tossed from the tournament...

Urghhh... gggrraaaghh

Edit by Remaeus: When the round is over, the ref steps in and mediates - same thing when there is a KO or otherwise match-ending incident. When it is over, it's over - if you continue, you're going against tournament regulations, just like in a real fighting tournament.

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Re: GT2008: The Main OOC (Semifinals.) ( )

Postby Asimov on Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:21 pm

That's kinda how I felt when I found out that rules like "Don't injure the audience" won't actually get you disqualified for breaking them. Or indeed count against you at all. And that the scoring system counts "all actions as equal" regardless of if they make sense or not.

Besides, you didn't outwit me. You made a complete attack because I didn't post by the deadline.
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