I'm starting to hope it may just be simply a site error. I don't think RPG would really just get rid of all the other forums. We were able to create new threads just yesterday. And I doubt they would imply the ability to use the old method if they really didn't mean we could. So I'm crossing my fingers.

And I did send Rem a PM at the same time I sent you one Jade. His was longer and detailed, no cursing or flaming.

We have a lot of new additions to the site, and yes, one of them is the new roleplay tab and system. When you create a roleplay, it auto-generates an "OOC" forum thread for you, so you don't have to. You can add all the information right there through the roleplay tab.

As far as learning how to do it, a member created a guide to help you all out with the roleplay tab and how to work with its features: how-the-new-roleplay-tab-t37887.html

I think you should give it a try instead of complaining about it. Although it is understandable that it's frustrating, I think you'll get used to it and learn that it's a very helpful tool. Plus, it's a lot faster. ;P

Also, you ARE still allowed to post OOC/IC threads for your roleplays...We just prefer you all to use the RP tab. It is faster, easier, and makes RP experience very fun.

@Nitro

Again, we are not. Yes, we can post an OOC. But please, go and try to post a thread in any of the following sections: Fantasy, Realistic, Futuristic, and Fiction. It redirects back to the new RPG menu. That is why I'm complaining. I've said that for the 80th time already.

Like I said, I just want to create an IC.

Edit: (Most of the sub-forums in those topics are the same way.)

Edit 2: (They are all the same, except for the subforum of Vampire Roleplay.)

Nitro. Try reading the thread next time lol

We cannot! It's not some noob fail on our behalf.

If it's a site error, fair enough, I retract most of my statements, but if it's a new addition to the site, then I'm gonna get going.

I see what you mean. I did, indeed, try to create a new topic in the IC forums. This wasn't like this a couple days ago. I s'pose I failed to check it out. I honestly don't think it's a site error. Remæus really wants everyone to utilize the Roleplay tab to the fullest; he created it for a reason: faster, easier roleplay experience.

You have your own private chat for that particular roleplay, and an OOC/IC option.

I believe that, in creating an "IC" thread, you can "create a new topic" in one of the IC forums, and then it could generate for you. Let me try it and I'll get back to you.

EDIT: Upon testing it and seeing for myself, I was honestly not aware of this. I do apologize for my mistake and ignorance on this. It was to my belief that you could still post in the forums and such. I will bring this up to Remæus and see what we can work out. I believe that there should be a function for creating IC roleplays in the roleplay tab, instead of just only OOC. Not being able to post in the IC forums is ridiculous, I concur.

Can't you just ask the almighty -- Sorry, sarcasm -- to just put it back to normal so we don't have to dance around like a couple of spare tools?

I liked it when it was a simple one-click, create thread scenario. That was very fast and easy. Why did it need to be faster and easier?

I would caution everyone to NOT take what ever rage, anger or general bad attitude out on the Moderators. They are not the ones coding, nor revising the site. To berate them is foolish and does nothing to help your case.

If you have issue with the new format-

1) Be constructive in your criticism.

2) Give examples of your issues.

3) Do not degrade into meaningless flaming and snide comments.

If you can do all of these, We will address your issues in a responsible and professional manner.

Skall

Skall, since when was,

"Okay, you do better then."

A responsible and professional manner?

Eric being a childish person aside.

See my previous question.

Also, delete your double post? :P

Firstly, why the complaining? From what I can gather there are a few reasons why the RP Tab and the system it contains is being perceived as, let's be blunt, shit:

1: Ease of access. And to quell this point, let's take a logic look at it. One: There is a nice list of roleplays now. And, instead of just a topic name, there's a short synopsis to go with it - which will doubtlessly result in more interest. (I, for one, judge a roleplay by it's title often; that was all there was to judge an RP on, unless you actually look at it. I don't have time for that, so the now-included synopsis gives me another point of reference.) You get to see every RP you are in on one page, which is a vast improvement to the 'view my posts' or the topic subscription service: You only see roleplays. From that one page, you get direct access to each roleplay.

2: Too much hassle. So, you people want to make a new OOC thread, write up the information, get people interested, post character sheets that make a thread cluttered, THEN make the IC thread? Lulwut?! Seriously, think about it. You write up the information normally included in an OOC 'pitch' in the Introduction Section, people see the RP in the aforementioned list of RPs, they take a look at the information, then make a new character (the same thing as posting a character sheet), and can post in the OOC which was made AUTOMATICALLY with any questions. Then, for the RP maker, they don't need to keep checking for new characters and stuff because you are notified via PM. You can then give feedback directly to the other person about whether they are accepted or not. Saves them having to keep checking. Hassle? Hell, it'll save you time.

3: It's not play-by-post. Umm... Of course it is. The only difference is that they aren't clear-cut forum posts. You just click on the 'Posting' tab of the new RP system, and you can make a brand new post. Just as on the forums, that post and its contents are added to the last page and/or below the previous post. Wait! 'That's the same as on the forums themselves!' I hear you cry. Yup, exactly. It's just on a slightly differently formatted page.

4: Where should we put all the information? Umm... That's exactly what the RP Tab is for. You have an easy-access reference tool for all your RPs now. Every location in the roleplay, every character in the roleplay, all in one place. They're no longer in totally different places... I used to hate reviewing characters or who had joined my RPs, because all the submissions were spread about the thread. Now, it's easy.

5: We're being forced to use this new system. And? Your point is? Well, except for the fact that you don't like change? Try this on for size: The only difference is that the RP Tab makes things easier and more simple. Disagree? See previous four points.

Oh, and let me add, if you wanted have variety in your roleplay, and have a chat session or something, each RP has its own individual chat. Each location you create is a room in that chat. Now, let me ask... How amazingly awesome is that?! (11, on a scale of one to ten, with ten being totally unbelievably awesome.)

And you say you've given the RP Tab a try? How many of you complainers have ACTUALLY given it a real try? Have you made a roleplay with it? Have you had character submissions for your roleplay? Have you made characters for the roleplay? Have you dealt with this submissions/applications? Have you then gone on to actually, ya know, roleplay in the RP Tab? Give it a real try. Spend a week or so using it, realise the benefits of this new system, and revel in its glory.

Once you've given it a real try, however, don't hang your head in shame and disbelief of this thread, we already forgave you.

Peace out, Saladin.

Alright, unlike a certain mod I know *cough cough* Silly Nit *cough*... I tried to make a new roleplay in ICs and found it impossible in most cases as Keikeiya has pointed out. The new system is a bit clunky at the moment and is very hard at navigating, but I bet if you asked Rem he would probably call this a beta. (Or maybe even alpha?)

As for the IC thing being an error or intentional, I doubt it should be gotten rid of yet either. I say yet because maybe the new system, once getting some legs and coding, might be able to make navigation and creation a whole lot simpler. But as pointed out, that is not the case.

I will make sure to prod Rem when I can and see what is to be done. I am sorry for the inconvenience the new system has caused anyone. I ask for patience as we try and resolve what is going on. Right now everyone is just spamming in speculation. Us mods/admins included. ;)

1. It was already easy to "access." You went into OOC, made a thread. People clicked link. That's easy.

2. I dont remember anyone ever complaining about any kind of hassle in relation to the sign-up/creation process of an RP. Considering this is how it's been done for longer than many of us has been RP'ing, it's safe to say that we're all pretty happy -- were happy with it.

3. K.

4. We had an easy-access tool as well: Quick reply.

5. My point is, I'd like a choice in the matter in how I RP. The motto of the site is "roleplay YOUR way." It's turning into, "roleplay REM'S way!"

MoonMan...

1: The same process applies... Except it's a list of roleplays, rather than just OOC threads.

2: I'm sure I mentioned someone saying the new system is a hassle. And the fact you failed to see I was talking about the new system just points out how similar it really is.

3: -=Nods=-

4: Yeah, the new 'posting' works the same... It's even positioned in the same place: At the bottom of the page. :)

5: You CAN roleplay your way. The medium doesn't determine how you roleplay. And, as pointed out, the RP Tab just puts everything you would normally do into one, easy-access place, rather than having things spread all over the forum.

MM, you're my friend at least I consider you to be a friend.

I have created a roleplay using the new way to do it. It's awesome really. Everything is in a nice neat order for you to look at. Characters are all in one section. Places inside your world are in one section. It's very efficient. I hate to say this but, you sound more like a stubborn child who realizes he's wrong and is just repeating a certain point that hasn't been addressed until someone gives in.

It does say roleplay YOUR way yes, but well this is Rem's site not ours and he is trying to make it easier for us to roleplay our way. It's roleplay our way because we can create what ever roleplay we'd like to in following roleplay rules not because we can choose how we make our threads. The new tab section is just making that easier. Lay off the mods they can only do so much.

"Turn that rabble-trash off! No good kids and their fancy music. Get off my lawn!"

Consider us old fashioned stubborn role-players. As raw as it can be, we still like it. We made it work over all these years, no matter how unorganized and hard to do it was. And that was not always the case. But even so we made it the best we could. And even as stupid as the old way may be, and as flashy and high tech as this new system is, there are those of us who still like it the way it was originally done.

Like I said, I am not asking for all hell to be broken loose, and for the system to be trashed and thrown out. I just want to post a thread in the In Character forum. This system seems to be doing well, and appears to be popular. I can't imagine how long it took to work on it. I support the site, I love this place.

But why throw out all of the forums if they are there to be used. Why not have both ways available to role-play with? The Old Way and New System. Does it really have to be one or the other? Or am I giving some crappy "Lets coexist together" speech that no one really was listening to.

Thank you thank you thank you!

I just tried to create a new thread, and was no longer redirected. I tested out another forum, and a sub forum. These too no longer redirect me ot the New Roleplay system. I am unsure who fixed this problem, (most likely Rem), but whomever it was, simply put: Thank you.

I am incredibly appreciative. Thats the word but it isn't strong enough. My fellow roleplayers within my OOC also thank you. I apologize for any flaming or other inappropriate behavior in this thread, whether those actions were on my part or not.

Furthermore, I will do my best to learn as much about the new system as I can. If I am still able to roleplay the old way, I will do my best to also learn how to effectively use the new way as well before condeming it. This way I can use both to the best of my extent.

Again, thank you. :)

Keikeiya ez happeh happeh.