I don't know the deal with plain pokemon not dying but there is no canonical proof they do. I never said Roll would blow up the earth; Rush Drill is just that: a drill. However, even if you are invincible and world-shattering when it comes to power (royal you, as in Tenchi and Z, because I know you'll try and twist that too), Roll is invincible. I repeat, invincible, any and all attacks that hit Rush Drill do no damage, nor do they move her or interrupt it.

LHW run out eventually, as your first 'canonical' proof says. You can be as strong as you like, but if your powers run out at some point, you're as good as dead.

In conclusion:

Roll is invincible with Rush Drill, Roll is not almighty when it comes to powers but Roll does not run out of energy with Rush Drill.

Tenchi and Z rely on LHW: LHW are almighty, produce invincibility and take copious amounts of energy to sustain.

Tenchi does NOT rely on LHW he has various powers and abilties aside them plus one of the strongest weapons in the universe the tenchi-ken. Tenchi can kill invincible people appearetly you never saw episode 6. Kagato was destroyed completly and regenerated he was invincible Tenchi can create an LHW sword which can cut through ANYTHING it dosen't matter if your invincinbe you'll be disintegrated.

Even if you can regenerate from nothing or are invincinble LHW blade can kill you and even negate the effects of the regeneration. Tenchi can use LHW blade to slash Roll and she WILL be disintegrated. LHW does not run out except if the ships ran out of power but Tenchi and Z have infinite energy. Z can control matter so he can turn Roll into stone and than break her or something.

In Conclusion
Tenchi can't actually physically hurt her but with LHW sword which basically is above reality it can cut through anything invincible,regeneration, intangible whatever. Tenchi does not run out of energy he never stops till he wins check out all his fights whenever he's in danger LHW come or he can summon them. Point is they won't leave till he's safe and the opponent is dead. Only Z can deactivate light hawk wings and you forget Kami Tenchi? He's omnipotent,omniscence, and omnipresent. He can own Roll Tenchi is Kami Tenchi.

chulance wrote:Tenchi does NOT rely on LHW he has various powers and abilties aside them plus one of the strongest weapons in the universe the tenchi-ken.[1] Tenchi can kill invincible people appearetly you never saw episode 6.`[2] Kagato was destroyed completly and regenerated he was invincible[3] Tenchi can create an LHW sword which can cut through ANYTHING it dosen't matter if your invincinbe you'll be disintegrated.[4]

Even if you can regenerate from nothing or are invincinble LHW blade can kill you[5] and even negate the effects of the regeneration. Tenchi can use LHW blade to slash Roll and she WILL be disintegrated.[6] LHW does not run out except if the ships ran out of power[7] but Tenchi and Z have infinite energy. Z can control matter so he can turn Roll into stone and than break her or something.[8]

In Conclusion
Tenchi can't actually physically hurt her but with LHW sword which basically is above reality it can cut through anything invincible,regeneration, intangible whatever.[9] Tenchi does not run out of energy he never stops till he wins check out all his fights[10] whenever he's in danger LHW come or he can summon them. Point is they won't leave till he's safe and the opponent is dead.[11] Only Z can deactivate light hawk wings and you forget Kami Tenchi? He's omnipotent,omniscence, and omnipresent.[12] He can own Roll Tenchi is Kami Tenchi.

[1] That's great! But guess what? Still no dice - invincible means nothing works. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

[2] Invincible means you can't be defeated, apparently you never read it on a dictionary or bothered to ask.

[3] Then Kagato wasn't invincible after all if he let himself get to that state.

[4] You don't cut invincible-- invincible means you can't defeat it; she'll take the hit as no damage as I've said already.

[5] If Roll could regenerate, I'd understand her being killed, over and over. However, she can't, we're talking about invincibility, that meaning nothing, no LHW, no spirit bomb, no raikiri, no force in the universe will leave a dent.

[6] Just plain bloody no.

[7] Look for other proof then, as Wiki says they do. Regardless, it'll be a stalemate at best as even with never-ending power you wouldn't kill her.

[8] You can't beat invincible. Get it through your head. The only reason manga/anime says an enemy is invincible (and the main character kicks the stuffing out of 'em afterwards) is for dramatic effect. Never will they truly encounter an unmovable barrier due to the demography watching-- they need to believe said character is that strong. However, in an environment like this one, where nobody's here to root on Tenchi or Z, you have to realize their opponents are truly invincible if so is said.

[9] I never said her immunity was only physical; her appearance in Rush Drill has proved to be immune to special attacks as well, appearing as a hit but without any real damage done.

[10] Exactly what I was saying, Chulance! They have to do that otherwise nobody would watch them, their history doesn't quite qualify as proof considering they haven't fought Roll.

[11] That'll take eternity then, as Roll isn't leaving Rush Drill, ergo those LHW can stay parked in front of either Z or Tenchi as long as they want, she's not budging.

[12] Omnipotent doesn't work on invincible. Omnipresence is only a God quality, though nothing that'll penetrate Rush Drill or actually do anything-- in fact, you're making her job easier by being everywhere!

I'd actually have to say my character. Or maybe ben ten's universe character. Anywho, I may actually NOT be the strongest character, but, in one of my adventures I got to look at myself in the future, and I rule all and everything, just like Hellboy looked at his. If you look at my abilities, they allow me to be versitile in just about any environment. From my armor, to the weapons I wield, I made this character to be able to cross over into a variety of animes and mangas, as well as some movies. I still have to do sketches of what I look like, but to get started, I even have my own book on Killa. Well, his past and how he came to be anyway.

You know what I'm doing with this retarded argument it's obvious Tenchi wins and besides Roll isn't even a serious character. She's not invincinble so ha! When doing an attack in a game that dosen't count unless in cut-sceens they say your invincible. Kagato was invincible Ryoko can harm invincible people. Roll ain't invincible I win this argument because I know your not being serious.

I'm getting a head-ache nothing can beat Tenchi NOTHING! Tenchi has LHW it's a fact she owns Roll I'm ignoring everything you say. It's insanity to think anything can survive LHW. Tenchi wins this debate. Tenchi can first of all simply disintegrate Roll she looses I don't care what you say. Tenchi can block any attack and can kill ANYTHING. omnipotence is the ability to do anything. I win this debate. Bring in a stronger character and I might just might listen to your posts.

Stop. Just stop. End this farce of a debate because it isn't even a debate. This is a stupid e-peen, my guy is better because I said so and you suck wanna be debate. Unless you actually are going to debate instead of wasting space on ridiculous asinine and juvenile foolishness just stop. If you wish to continue and want to call this exercise a debate, freaking act like it is a debate.

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NO ONE HAS BEEN ACTUALLY DEBATING, it's been a fanboi shouting match. The biggest offender of this travesty, when presented with facts, is Chulance, who has neither conceded even the most basic and obvious points and flaws in his arguments.

Ah, Skallagrim beat me to the punch. I suppose the only thing I'm missing is the source; Rush Drill Roll appears in both Marvel vs. Capcom I and II, whereas anime appearances are in the Rockman series and Megaman for the more recent.

I had a 14 point quote barrage, but I'll end it with something a lot more simple. Here is the definition of invincible. If you're fighting Roll during Rush Drill, attacks (as shown in the appearances I mention first) are interrupted by the drill, whereas successful ones (be it from above or otherwise) are marked as hits, including the flashing animation showing damage, but there is no loss of health. Your Wiki link says LHW requires energy to be sustained, lots of it in fact, so until I can see canon proof neither (or just one) doesn't need it, Roll remains with the same strategy: drill until they're out of LHW, drill them open.