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Top · by **Jakob Gray** on Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:47 pm

Well.

No more reputations?

All my academy/highschool hating is all for naught!

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Top · by **Aelita** on Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:01 pm

Wow, this is different.
I wasn't expecting something like this. I do like it though, It's interesting and will give people a goal to work toward. Nice. ^^

Top · by **Korrye** on Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:32 pm

Alright, I'm here and I feel as if I need to explain myself and my position.
The rating system is flawed, or so I feel it is. I feel that it doesn't justify the abilities of writers (not only myself but others).

There are many of us who work hard on our posts and who would appreciate positive feedback on them as we are writers. However the reputation system does not compile a complete list of your posts and their ratings. If I could see this then I feel that I would be able to see where I did some wrong instead of hunting down each one of my posts to see what number of stars I received. The stars don't help me in acknowledging where I went wrong which is my issue here.

That and the fact (it's been stated already) that people run around give a one star rating to people who don't deserve it. If you can't read a post because the font is too small then tell a person because maybe to them it looks just fine on their monitor.

I feel that there should be a better feedback system in place. Period.

Top · by **Exalted Legend** on Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:02 am

I very much like this reputation score much better then the old, outdated post count, because as Remæus said earlier, post count does not signify writing ability. Nor does it prove you are an excellent writer. It just means that you can exploit the system, and spam your way up the ranks (real talent there... not), yet really not proving anything because you will lack experience and writing expertise when you join a thread (this is an RP site you know, not a chat room).
This system, however, in its current state is exploitable to some degree, but far less then the post count. People can, and will, rate those they envy low, but they cannot change ones ability to write. Why complain you have a low reputation, when you can simply participate in a thread, and prove that you can write?
I myself am not afraid of getting a low reputation score due to knowledge and confidence. I've been writing for seven years, and therefore care little for the hatred, or jealously others may have against my writing skills. If I happen to receive a low reputation score, I know that was because of jealously, and hatred. Not due to my lack of writing expertise.
Now, do not mistaken me, please. I know I am not the best, but I realize that I am always learning and growing, and that is exactly what this reputation system is doing as well. Learning.

I give you props and respect Remæus for such a wonderful system, I humbly believe that this system will enhance people's writing ability. Simply brilliant, my friend, simply brilliant.

Top · by **isafos** on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:06 pm

True Grave wrote:I hate this system. I'm permanently stuck at 1.9, even if I give a five-star post. This system sucks and should be canned. The whole rating system should be canned because it's no indicator of how good you are. It's all opinion, which isn't good. And Member Reputation is just wrong. I have a 1.9 reputation now. While Remaeus and other high-ranking people have 4 or 5 star reputations. It isn't right, and needs to be canned. FOREVER.

Same thoughts here. I don't like it at all. Rameus description wasn't very good for describing what I should try and aim for if I want a high rep in the long run, but it seems to be 'post in popular RP's and hope your friends are there.' It's depressing. I'd be far happier without it.

Top · by **Remæus** on Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:43 am

isafos wrote:
True Grave wrote:I hate this system. I'm permanently stuck at 1.9, even if I give a five-star post. This system sucks and should be canned. The whole rating system should be canned because it's no indicator of how good you are. It's all opinion, which isn't good. And Member Reputation is just wrong. I have a 1.9 reputation now. While Remaeus and other high-ranking people have 4 or 5 star reputations. It isn't right, and needs to be canned. FOREVER.

Same thoughts here. I don't like it at all. Rameus description wasn't very good for describing what I should try and aim for if I want a high rep in the long run, but it seems to be 'post in popular RP's and hope your friends are there.' It's depressing. I'd be far happier without it.

Reputation is not an indicator of writing ability. It is a measurement of reputation. Does the user provide content that you would like to see more of? Then the user should have a high reputation.

Top · by **BSX** on Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:13 am

Remæus wrote: Reputation is not an indicator of writing ability. It is a measurement of reputation. Does the user provide content Then the user should have a high reputation.that you would like to see more of?

The blue part is false, RPers that have semi-original content and storylines are ignored or rated with a 1 star because they're are not a well known member. Some people just join a RP because a popular member makes it and not based on their writing ability. The rep system is nothing but a ego booster and like I said before IS going to be abused, so either enjoy in the fun and abuse the hell out of it or stay away from it like me.

EDIT: OH NO!!! I got a 2 star rating for not @55 kissing, giving my opinion, and *gasp* telling the truth about how the rep system is used on RPG! LOL I don't care if I get a 1 star for every post I make. You can keep on hating, but I'm still going to do my thang. Chuck douches!

Top · by **Exalted Legend** on Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:28 pm

BSX wrote:
Remæus wrote: Reputation is not an indicator of writing ability. It is a measurement of reputation. Does the user provide content Then the user should have a high reputation.that you would like to see more of?

The blue part is false, RPers that have semi-original content and storylines are ignored or rated with a 1 star because they're are not a well known member. Some people just join a RP because a popular member makes it and not based on their writing ability. The rep system is nothing but a ego booster and like I said before IS going to be abused, so either enjoy in the fun and abuse the hell out of it or stay away from it like me.

EDIT: OH NO!!! I got a 2 star rating for not @55 kissing, giving my opinion, and *gasp* telling the truth about how the rep system is used on RPG! LOL I don't care if I get a 1 star for every post I make. You can keep on hating, but I'm still going to do my thang. Chuck douches!

You have no idea how badly that makes you look. How foolish you seem. People don't hate you, but with a kindergarden quality post like that I can understand why you were rated pretty low, it's terrible! Chuck douches? Wow. Real original there. You are the kind of person that makes a site like this not worth it. But it seems no matter where you look, there is some fool who believes life isn't fair, and then they complain and try to voice their opinion which really is unimportant.

Top · by **True Grave** on Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:44 pm

I really don't have much of a complaint about the rating system anymore. Sure, I don't like having a one or two star rating, and I really would prefer a four star rating, but those stars don't measure how truly good you are as anRPer. It measures how good you are in the eys of someone else. There's room for abuse, but it can also be used in a good way. Usd rightfully and by people who are mature enough to rate posts based on how good they actually are make the system work.

My only complaint is how I got my one star rating. I oiginally had 3.3 stars and it dropped to 0.4 in the span of one night. Checking over my highlighted material and topics, I could not figure out how it got that way so fast. Seeking help from Remaeus got me nothing, and I'm still kind of sore about that. Still, this system is like any other; It can be abused or it can be used right. The choice is in the hands of the roleplayer.

Top · by **BSX** on Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:12 pm

Exalted Legend wrote: You have no idea how badly that makes you look. How foolish you seem. People don't hate you, but with a kindergarden quality post like that I can understand why you were rated pretty low, it's terrible! Chuck douches? Wow. Real original there. You are the kind of person that makes a site like this not worth it. But it seems no matter where you look, there is some fool who believes life isn't fair, and then they complain and try to voice their opinion which really is unimportant.

You have no idea how much I don't care what you think of me. Making quick assumptions, shallow comments, and demeaning me because I don't share you're point of view. I bet you fit right in the norm of society.

Maybe I'm being to harsh and complex for this topic considering the average age on this site is below 20.

Top · by **True Grave** on Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:33 pm

Well, BSX, I did understand what you are saying and I am under twenty. I'm choosing not to get involved in you and Exalted's argument, so I'll just leave it at that.

Top · by **isafos** on Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:41 pm

Remæus wrote:
isafos wrote:
True Grave wrote:I hate this system. I'm permanently stuck at 1.9, even if I give a five-star post. This system sucks and should be canned. The whole rating system should be canned because it's no indicator of how good you are. It's all opinion, which isn't good. And Member Reputation is just wrong. I have a 1.9 reputation now. While Remaeus and other high-ranking people have 4 or 5 star reputations. It isn't right, and needs to be canned. FOREVER.

Same thoughts here. I don't like it at all. Rameus description wasn't very good for describing what I should try and aim for if I want a high rep in the long run, but it seems to be 'post in popular RP's and hope your friends are there.' It's depressing. I'd be far happier without it.

Reputation is not an indicator of writing ability. It is a measurement of reputation. Does the user provide content that you would like to see more of? Then the user should have a high reputation.

That is what I've heard, and that is all very nice and good, but that is entirely dependant on those around the writer. It ignores that fact that not everybody will vote, most don't, and when they do there is still bias. Unless 'mandatory voting' is introduced, then most people will be stuck with their current ratings which they may not be happy with, but if people are forced to do something, that will annoy them, and they may act spitefully or just spam * or ***** just for the sake of aiding a friend or spiting an enemy. For that reason it's a shaky system.

What I'm basically saying is, we all need to be robots. :lol:

Top · by **ViVi** on Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:58 pm

I just came back to this site and noticed I had stars on my name. It took me a while to realize what it was but over all its an okay idea. I mean I think Remæus understands that this is not a popularity contest, more for fun. If Remæus was serious then he would have given himself the highest rating there is, but he didn't. And Grave is right, it doesn't determine how good you are as an rp'er. It just depends whether or not the voter likes you, and you shouldn't care really.

Top · by **albel cigaro** on Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:23 pm

Does the arguements here over ratings remind anyone of Shezzyart's infamous frontpage and rating disscussions. Since the creation of reputation system here I could not help but think about them but I have not said anything about them is beyond me.

THe systems on sheezy were abused time and time again with people who do mere sprite recolors (The equivalent of one liners here in terms of hatred.) or some times just really mediocre doodles getting front page for the maximum amount of time because the creator watched multitudes of people and gave them lots of flattering comments. To draw even greater parralels fan art seemingly makes up half of the content. In my opinion Sheezy has gotten a little better in recent mothss their's still alot of cleaning up to do.

Some say it's gotten the point where the site is'nt about art anymore has turned into a socail networking site where the art is basiclly a gimmick. Maybe I am afraid the same thing is happening to gateway or with the pestimistic view at faster rate than it was when I got here.

Top · by **Astral Weave** on Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:24 pm

I like the rating system because, as Remæus points out, it is simply a measure of others opinions. It is not to inform you of your mediocrity, or for that matter your superiority. Interesting, well liked material will likely get rated well. The law of averages says that your score 'aught to even out to the appropriate level, unless this site is a pack of villains, which it is not.

The only real problem I have are the arguments that younger individuals are incapable of properly rating adult material. I feel a little patronized, as a budding young 15 year old man. I am quite capable of Roleplaying on par with most adults, not that it matters. Rather than insinuating that adolescents have less acumen, you should encourage them to read and critique your writing. Number one, it gives them a chance, admittedly, to read better material and learn from it. Number two, unless you seriously lack self-esteem, you should be wholly capable of receiving an opinion from a younger individual without condescension. If you feel insulted, then please, oblige me, and get over it.

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