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by **Rokku** on Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:31 pm

Tanks are too slow and cannot handle steep terrain. Small walker mechs would be able to attain more firing positions, because they could climb mountains and go places tanks cannot. Plus, you can put a lot more guns on a mech.

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by **AzricanRepublic** on Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:39 pm

Tanks are too slow and cannot handle steep terrain

The M1A1 Abrams had a top rate of roughly 67.72 km/h, that's roughly 42 miles an hour. Boy, that's one fast tank. If I recall, the M1A1 Abrams can also traverse a ... I believe a 45 degree grade, that's fairly steep.

because they could climb mountains and go places tanks cannot

Climbing mountains? Uhm. Airlift Infantry, child.

Plus, you can put a lot more guns on a mech

Ba-haw, ba-haw, ba-haw. I'm going to quote an old friend to counter this.

"Whatever you can fit on a Mecha, you can fit on a tank for half the prices less, and be able to fit twice the amount of ammunition."

by **Gogo Kunimura** on Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:56 am

AzricanRepublic wrote:
The M1A1 Abrams had a top rate of roughly 67.72 km/h, that's roughly 42 miles an hour. Boy, that's one fast tank. If I recall, the M1A1 Abrams can also traverse a ... I believe a 45 degree grade, that's fairly steep.

Well, that is on a road. 30mph off road.

Either way. I would have to choose a tank. Just cause, I would think that Mech's would be based on the human form. So they wouldn't be able to turn in a complete 180 degree angle, thus giving tanks an advantage. But, what do I know? I haven't even read this entire topic, I just thought it looked interesting.

by **Village Alchemist** on Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:38 am

In the realm of fantasy, mechas kick everything's ass. Why not? They're basically 50+ foot tall warriors bristling with guns on every body part, that may or may not have the ability to fly or shapeshift.

In reality, however, the design is pretty absurd. Since its center of gravity is much higher off the ground than a tank's, it could much more easily be tripped over (ever seen The Empire Strikes Back? The Battle of Hoth is a perfect example of why a walking combat vehicle is a bad idea.) It also has no treads, and thus will have more difficulty moving over unstable terrain (gravel, sand, mud, et cetera).

In media that features mecha, their main advantage over tanks is that they are larger and have more/stronger weapons. In theory, however, tanks could be made that large and have those same weapons.

Realistically, a mech would be usefull on the battlefield only for the intimidation factor.

Vexar wrote:As far as tanks... We're more likely to see them 'Hopping' along a battlefield in the near future, rather than any sort of mech.

Like a Mako? I want one. :-)

Okay, so that's more of a rover than a tank, but still....

by **Rion-OfTheHolySky** on Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:16 pm

Im going to have to agree with the Mech when it comes to fantasy. But when it comes to realistic, they would actually be quite easy to take down with a tank, depending on how developed they were and seeing as are technology is at this point after all this time, I dont think they would be that large before the earth was destroyed becuase of the wars, I belive would outbreak and will outbreak in the future. It wouldnt suprise me if they were making a mech right now, but the only way they would be effective is if they were to be part of the mass-production of things being sent to the army and such. Thus making Mech's very in-effective unless are economy was cleaned up and we had the money to afford many Mech, not just a few, and thats when Mech were created, if not already created, and just waiting to make its apperance on the market.

by **knock** on Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:01 pm

well that's a bunch of good points not that I don't like Tanks I love them but Mecha Design is just cooler looking Tank design is more realistic and useful while While a Mecha is as said before an intimidation machine march that up to a enemy camp and they'll probablly surrender but Walk a tank up their and they won't so in conclusion

Tank:Attack Defense realism

Mecha:Show Intimidation and maybe Rescue operations

by **Rooster** on Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:12 pm

If I was in a war and I was shot in the ass I would be lying on the beach waiting for a Walker or a tank to give me some support, If a giant bigass multicolored mecha with no camo at all and red glowing eyes showed up and started stomping everywere crushing munitions and maybe even people in gillies and shooting lasers at everything that moved I would shit my pants and then have a little...... chat with the pilot or person that suggested that they send Sparkles the Green pink red and blue giant with spikes everywere.

by **Rion-OfTheHolySky** on Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:03 pm

Oh and Gogo your last comment wasnt nessicarily true. I have seen many Mech Fantasy like, and some realistic looking that are made to have the upper part of their body turn 360 degrees while the legs are run by another mechanism which allows you to walk forward while also blasting backwards. And not all Mech's are based on Human design, though if a mech was made anytime in the future with are simple minded humans we have it would be human based.

by **Village Alchemist** on Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:04 pm

Rion-OfTheHolySky wrote:And not all Mech's are based on Human design, though if a mech was made anytime in the future with are simple minded humans we have it would be human based.

Would it?

No other weapon that I know of that people have built look like people. :-p Does a tank, an anti-aircraft turret, or a nuclear warhead look like a human?

by **Rion-OfTheHolySky** on Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:14 pm

Humans have already declared if a Mech was made they would prefer a Human based skeleton, though I suppose if a mech was created it wouldn't have to be . ^^

by **Rooster** on Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:37 pm

http://www.activewin.com/reviews/xbox36 ... 02ss10.jpg Send this over this http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc16 ... Gundam.jpg

ANY DAY!!!

Even this over the mech!
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd30 ... sMech1.png

Viva la walkers!

by **AzricanRepublic** on Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:49 am

Mecha:Show Intimidation and maybe Rescue operations

In terms of Rescue Operations, the Directed Exhaust VTOL will always reign supreme. Having a 50 foot mecha walking around looking for a person is about the most unpractical thing I've ever seen anyone suggest, to be honest.

In the realm of willy-nilly-big-eyed-anime-fantasy, yeah, I guess you would be better off with a 60 foot mecha. Of course, that's not my cup of tea.

Rooster has a good idea. Low-profile, high-caliber weapon pieces. Like those things y'see in Chromehounds; I'd classify those more as Heavy Armor than anything less, but those are Walkers regardless of classification. They're probably 20-40 feet tops at most. The third picture Rooster provides is a much more practical, and all around tactical, weapon than many Mecha's I've seen.

Regarding the chassis of a Walker, I'd go with either a bipedal or quadrupedal design. Bipedal used mainly for Direct Combat Units while slapping a big ol' 255 on the quadrupedal chassis. Mobile Artillery, huzzah.

by **Rooster** on Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:39 am

Yeah, Someone test this out.
Go to the top of a skyscraper and look for a person wounded and probably laying down, covered in mud with camo on and THEN picture a giant ass hand grabing said wounded person, additional fractures and or make the already existing ones worse.

Then go to the top of a regular ranch style house and look down on someone laying down in the mud with camo.
MUCH EASIER

Then picture 2 guys climbing out of the mech wraping the injured up and climbing OR ropeing the guy up, hell at that height you could make a small elevator come down.

There you have it, visablity would suck.

(Sorry for spelling, im a little dazed.)

by **AzricanRepublic** on Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:03 am

Like a Mako? I want one. :-) Okay, so that's more of a rover than a tank, but still....

Mako, Mass Effect, Mako?

Dude, that thing has a cannon ... and it hops! But yeah, that's kinda' like a Armored Fighting Vehicle if anything. =l

While a Mecha is as said before an intimidation machine march that up to a enemy camp and they'll probablly surrender but Walk a tank up their and they won't

Not necessarily. Take a group of King Tigers in 1941. You have an entire platoon of those roll up, you're plain stupid if you think you stand a chance. Hell, if four M1A1's rolled up to my house I'd be holding my arms up and throwing my weapons into the wood-chipper.

To be honest, the whole Gundam Mech being used for intimidation purposes, to a person like me, wouldn't seem that scary. A brightly painted, lightly armored bucket of bolts jumping from space and shooting at everything doesn't seem that intimidating, honestly. You'd just need to know where to hit it; now, follow me, I'd definitely be cautious if one of those things protruded itself into the combat scenario, but not to the point of surrender. I'd just keep my armor closer and more consolidated. =l

by **Rooster** on Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:45 pm

Shoot the joints. It falls. infantry and armor take it out. And the size of the jetpacks these things have......

Shoot that and the mech is done.

in other words.....

KABOOM.

by **Irish Wolf** on Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:29 pm

I'm siding with AzricanRepublic on this one. I can't think of a better target then a nice tall mech with more weapons than an armory , no matter what your shooting. You'd see, hear and feel those long before you could a tank. Even if they could hit you before you could hit back, you could take one out without heavy weapons. (see the battle of Hoth from The Empire Strikes Back or the battle of Endor from Return of the Jedi)

by **Rooster** on Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:29 pm

Lmao Tow cable its A**

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