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	<title>Comments on: RPGChat Forum Review</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ThatsNotPoetry</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7460</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatsNotPoetry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only just found this blog area. Before reading this entry I saw the screen cap of RPGChat and wilted. "Was RPGateway once RPGChat!?" I used to be a member there. Lord it was awful for me. I am sorry you had a somewhat negative experience there, as well.

When I was there, there was a lot of tension amongst staff and zero consensus on how to handle matters. Insta-bans were frequent. It was hard to keep people active in threads--or get anyone in a thread at all--if you weren't interested in guilds. They (including the staff) took debate too seriously and a lot of members felt slighted in the debate forum. I was never banned, but there was always a general feeling that if you weren't in on the guild stuff and didn't have a few friends in the mods, you weren't part of the "clique."

And I had some reeeeaaaal issues with staff. It's one of the reasons why I found it so important to tell you how happy I was with your staff, Eric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only just found this blog area. Before reading this entry I saw the screen cap of RPGChat and wilted. &#8220;Was RPGateway once RPGChat!?&#8221; I used to be a member there. Lord it was awful for me. I am sorry you had a somewhat negative experience there, as well.</p>
<p>When I was there, there was a lot of tension amongst staff and zero consensus on how to handle matters. Insta-bans were frequent. It was hard to keep people active in threads&#8211;or get anyone in a thread at all&#8211;if you weren&#8217;t interested in guilds. They (including the staff) took debate too seriously and a lot of members felt slighted in the debate forum. I was never banned, but there was always a general feeling that if you weren&#8217;t in on the guild stuff and didn&#8217;t have a few friends in the mods, you weren&#8217;t part of the &#8220;clique.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I had some reeeeaaaal issues with staff. It&#8217;s one of the reasons why I found it so important to tell you how happy I was with your staff, Eric.</p>
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		<title>By: roleplay</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7461</link>
		<dc:creator>roleplay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Eric. Can you review my roleplay forum ? I'm a member of your community and I would be very happy to have my forum reviewed by you. Please get back to me as soon as possible. I am very excited to have my community looked over by you.

link:
http://s11.zetaboards.com/Roleplay_Adventures/index/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Eric. Can you review my roleplay forum ? I&#8217;m a member of your community and I would be very happy to have my forum reviewed by you. Please get back to me as soon as possible. I am very excited to have my community looked over by you.</p>
<p>link:<br />
<a href="http://s11.zetaboards.com/Roleplay_Adventures/index/" rel="nofollow">http://s11.zetaboards.com/Roleplay_Adventures/index/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spock</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7462</link>
		<dc:creator>Spock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an active member of the site and yes, it is true, the site is not growing very fast anymore. That doesn't really concern me as it's current size means that good roleplays can generally get good people involved but you don't have so many people that you don't get to know the active community. If an rp site gets too big it's filled with 99% bad or just inexperienced roleplayers and since the good ones are so few and far between, getting quality rpers on the same story is close to impossible. As it is, most people I come acrosss in roleplays that I decide to join are fairly experienced.

Also, I've noticed that one reason they don't get involved with other rp sites is becasue most other rp sites are very inactive or they just suck. There are good ones, of course. But if another site is good and RPGC is good, we really don't need each other.

I do not feel myself burdened by the rules, either. Theya re very straightforward and fairly easy to follow. (Though I disagree with the one decision of your banning. Meh.)

Overall, it is one of the more balanced sites when it comes to quality, activity, and fun that I have been to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an active member of the site and yes, it is true, the site is not growing very fast anymore. That doesn&#8217;t really concern me as it&#8217;s current size means that good roleplays can generally get good people involved but you don&#8217;t have so many people that you don&#8217;t get to know the active community. If an rp site gets too big it&#8217;s filled with 99% bad or just inexperienced roleplayers and since the good ones are so few and far between, getting quality rpers on the same story is close to impossible. As it is, most people I come acrosss in roleplays that I decide to join are fairly experienced.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve noticed that one reason they don&#8217;t get involved with other rp sites is becasue most other rp sites are very inactive or they just suck. There are good ones, of course. But if another site is good and RPGC is good, we really don&#8217;t need each other.</p>
<p>I do not feel myself burdened by the rules, either. Theya re very straightforward and fairly easy to follow. (Though I disagree with the one decision of your banning. Meh.)</p>
<p>Overall, it is one of the more balanced sites when it comes to quality, activity, and fun that I have been to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jakob Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7459</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakob Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too think the closed-forum style that the site runs off is a mega turn-off.

First thought:
They ban you for advertisement?

Because OBVIOUSLY you were a walking billboard and completely ruining their membership.

It sounds like RpgChat needs to loosen its belt and lift the burden off their players.
They're only hurting themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too think the closed-forum style that the site runs off is a mega turn-off.</p>
<p>First thought:<br />
They ban you for advertisement?</p>
<p>Because OBVIOUSLY you were a walking billboard and completely ruining their membership.</p>
<p>It sounds like RpgChat needs to loosen its belt and lift the burden off their players.<br />
They&#8217;re only hurting themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Vexar/Maxamillion</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7457</link>
		<dc:creator>Vexar/Maxamillion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I have to say is... I was there when RPGChat first began.. The first year and a Half were ran near perfection... Then rules came bearing down. Other people started hogging the site. Soon enough, the site didn't even have a Chat... (Kinda needed, hence.. RPG... CHAT) I'm known as Maxamillion on there. One of the original RPGC goers... That site as come a long way. No really, from the top of Everest, directly plummeting to the bottom. Tis why I left it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I have to say is&#8230; I was there when RPGChat first began.. The first year and a Half were ran near perfection&#8230; Then rules came bearing down. Other people started hogging the site. Soon enough, the site didn&#8217;t even have a Chat&#8230; (Kinda needed, hence.. RPG&#8230; CHAT) I&#8217;m known as Maxamillion on there. One of the original RPGC goers&#8230; That site as come a long way. No really, from the top of Everest, directly plummeting to the bottom. Tis why I left it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Martindale</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7458</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Martindale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha, that may be what it was - I've had the domain of RolePlayGateway set as my title for quite some time.  It'd have been nice to receive a request to remove that if it was a problem, and after so long - I never expected this.

Heck, the thing didn't even link to anything, it was just a title.  Meh, whatever.  Maybe someone from their staff will contact me about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha, that may be what it was - I&#8217;ve had the domain of RolePlayGateway set as my title for quite some time.  It&#8217;d have been nice to receive a request to remove that if it was a problem, and after so long - I never expected this.</p>
<p>Heck, the thing didn&#8217;t even link to anything, it was just a title.  Meh, whatever.  Maybe someone from their staff will contact me about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommi</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7452</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, I kind of guessed you intended nothing malicious, but it is easy to read otherwise. (Google discovered the post where the ban was announced, and that is all the dedication I have to offer for this thing. Maybe you had the url written somewhere, like title or location?)

Treize Khushrenada, I'm not representing rpgchat here. I'm just a random internet person who has talked a bit with Eric and shared an occasional stumble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I kind of guessed you intended nothing malicious, but it is easy to read otherwise. (Google discovered the post where the ban was announced, and that is all the dedication I have to offer for this thing. Maybe you had the url written somewhere, like title or location?)</p>
<p>Treize Khushrenada, I&#8217;m not representing rpgchat here. I&#8217;m just a random internet person who has talked a bit with Eric and shared an occasional stumble.</p>
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		<title>By: Treize Khushrenada</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7453</link>
		<dc:creator>Treize Khushrenada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric may or may not have intended this post to come off as "sniping" (personally, I feel after reading both the original post and the comments that he did not), but this fact is fairly irrelevant. All of the criticisms in the entry were true and accurate, and should be seen as just that: criticism. If anything, take the points he highlighted and work on them as a site. If you do not agree with what he said, do nothing to change it.

If all of these points are true, the site can only benefit from what "outsiders" have to say, since they aren't ingrained with the tired and sad patriotism of long-standing group members (a particular jab at AM, not RPGChat).

Please also feel free to offer us at RoleplayGateway criticisms of the same sort. We would welcome them and hopefully grow from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric may or may not have intended this post to come off as &#8220;sniping&#8221; (personally, I feel after reading both the original post and the comments that he did not), but this fact is fairly irrelevant. All of the criticisms in the entry were true and accurate, and should be seen as just that: criticism. If anything, take the points he highlighted and work on them as a site. If you do not agree with what he said, do nothing to change it.</p>
<p>If all of these points are true, the site can only benefit from what &#8220;outsiders&#8221; have to say, since they aren&#8217;t ingrained with the tired and sad patriotism of long-standing group members (a particular jab at AM, not RPGChat).</p>
<p>Please also feel free to offer us at RoleplayGateway criticisms of the same sort. We would welcome them and hopefully grow from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Martindale</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7454</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Martindale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommi, yes - I waited specifically for a portion of time before publishing the review.  I don't think I'd ever posted a link to other sites there, other than my profile link.  I had hoped to contact someone about this, and I'll update this post with their response.

All in all, I'm only attempting to highlight the the things they do great, and some improvements they could make to do even better.  I don't aim to be the bad guy, and while I participated there, I really tried my best to be a good member, by participating actively in the welcome forum, and providing ample feedback in other threads.

I don't see online communities as competitors, and instead I see them as being social - I can only hope to improve other communities, and by no intent to I hope to drag them down.  If I can provide constructive criticism, I will, if not, I don't say a word.

Thanks for your feedback!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommi, yes - I waited specifically for a portion of time before publishing the review.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d ever posted a link to other sites there, other than my profile link.  I had hoped to contact someone about this, and I&#8217;ll update this post with their response.</p>
<p>All in all, I&#8217;m only attempting to highlight the the things they do great, and some improvements they could make to do even better.  I don&#8217;t aim to be the bad guy, and while I participated there, I really tried my best to be a good member, by participating actively in the welcome forum, and providing ample feedback in other threads.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see online communities as competitors, and instead I see them as being social - I can only hope to improve other communities, and by no intent to I hope to drag them down.  If I can provide constructive criticism, I will, if not, I don&#8217;t say a word.</p>
<p>Thanks for your feedback!</p>
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		<title>By: Tommi</title>
		<link>http://www.ericmartindale.com/blog/2008/04/21/rpgchat-forum-review/#comment-7456</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Eric (I assume it is you). This is going to sound harsh, sorry about that.

The rules pretty explicitly condemn advertising in anything but website-part of the profile. The idea that competition is somehow bad is, of course, pretty suspect, but that is their call.

Eric, frankly, this comes off as less than polite. That probably wasn't the intention, so let me elaborate.

You went there, broke the rules (unless they were changed post-banning, which I doubt), became the most active member (Cynical me can read this in two ways: Either you spammed a lot or you imply that most members are not very active).

The SEO stuff can be considered as constructive criticism or unsolicited sniping. One should also consider how relevant it is: They are not necessarily very considered with SEO, especially with regards to random forum threads.

All in all: Given how you were banned for evidently breaking the rules, are a "competitor" (as much meaning as that may have in internet realm of fan communities and hobbyists), and criticise them, my first impression of you would not be very good, if this was the post creating it. There are also positive parts, but they read like they are there to make your stance look more objective. The last part does sound more genuine.

Take care and don't post website reviews immediately (well, ten days) after being banned. This is not intended as an attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Eric (I assume it is you). This is going to sound harsh, sorry about that.</p>
<p>The rules pretty explicitly condemn advertising in anything but website-part of the profile. The idea that competition is somehow bad is, of course, pretty suspect, but that is their call.</p>
<p>Eric, frankly, this comes off as less than polite. That probably wasn&#8217;t the intention, so let me elaborate.</p>
<p>You went there, broke the rules (unless they were changed post-banning, which I doubt), became the most active member (Cynical me can read this in two ways: Either you spammed a lot or you imply that most members are not very active).</p>
<p>The SEO stuff can be considered as constructive criticism or unsolicited sniping. One should also consider how relevant it is: They are not necessarily very considered with SEO, especially with regards to random forum threads.</p>
<p>All in all: Given how you were banned for evidently breaking the rules, are a &#8220;competitor&#8221; (as much meaning as that may have in internet realm of fan communities and hobbyists), and criticise them, my first impression of you would not be very good, if this was the post creating it. There are also positive parts, but they read like they are there to make your stance look more objective. The last part does sound more genuine.</p>
<p>Take care and don&#8217;t post website reviews immediately (well, ten days) after being banned. This is not intended as an attack.</p>
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