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Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Quickhand on Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:23 pm

I'm beating your ass in TB, a style I don't even fight in. Imagine if this was speed. You would have been dead in 20 seconds. Lol you suck in your own game.

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Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Mercenary on Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:40 am

Funny, when I'm in chat...I can never find you. Thats ok though, I'm going to make a forum thread and post the fight thus far there. That way there's no getting around our little spat. We're going to finish this, come hell or high water.
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Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Piccolo | Super Namekian on Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:03 pm

Man I read the fight, I can see how quick dodged the attacks, and to clear things up if you read the post of both fighters. Quickhand said he was a boxer, the Mercenary only used a mauy tai kickboxing stance, a little kid could do that, that doesn't make you a mauy tai kickboxer. As for that knee trying to fracture the shin, if you really were a mauy tai boxer you wouldn't even worry about it, but quickhand attempted to fracture it, and thus since you didnt state you stopped the attack it would happen, also quickhand didnt state he was attacking the shin he said his knee was going for mercenary's knee, but do to the time frame his knee would hit his shin insted, which would and could fracture a mauy tai boxer's shin. Mauy tai just rub bamboo on their shins so their nerve endings are dead, their shins aren't invincible to fracture's, though you wouldn't notice pain perhaps you would still be fractured. I see you claiming quickhand is god modding, but I dont see it, sure you guys are gonna be all " of course you'd say that you're on his team" but reading it over and over again it is possible since quick stated he broke the hold of mercenary, then suddenly mercenary threw a elbow for quick's temple, which is impossible without getting your hand between you and quick to bring your elbow around, other wise you couldn't even hit him, and you'd have to duck low since he is low. His arm would be beside his head no one just pushes their elbow down without brigning their body with it, and since your hold pushed him down his arm would be covering part of his head. You also seemed to suddenly not be tripped by quick, or even mention that when your elbow was flying, I am just wondering why you are all talking shit on quick when you need to re read the post, it is a good fight, but perhaps you should use your hieght to an advantage which any one who knows martial arts knows hieght can be the greatest disadvantage along with weight. About him not being able to break a mauy tai kick boxers shin or fracture or wtvr, he could just say he is a wrestler and not be slammed on the ground couldnt he? So don't think because your character "IS" or Takes a mauy tai stance means his shin is invonerable. If any one has shit to say by all means talk thy shit, i am right here if any one wants to challenge.

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Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Mercenary on Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:20 pm

Man I read the fight, I can see how quick dodged the attacks, and to clear things up if you read the post of both fighters. Quickhand said he was a boxer, the Mercenary only used a mauy tai kickboxing stance, a little kid could do that, that doesn't make you a mauy tai kickboxer.


That's something that is defined in character. Oh, shameless plug for my RP thread!
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As for that knee trying to fracture the shin, if you really were a mauy tai boxer you wouldn't even worry about it, but quickhand attempted to fracture it, and thus since you didnt state you stopped the attack it would happen, also quickhand didnt state he was attacking the shin he said his knee was going for mercenary's knee, but do to the time frame his knee would hit his shin insted, which would and could fracture a mauy tai boxer's shin.


I didn't worry about it until HE tried to claim the break. He was the one who said "Omg U didn't state blocking the hit, so I r claiming damage" which is a direct violation of the rules. I accepted the defense of the knee to the stomach by his own, so in essence, i did accept the contact. I just knew that he didn't have the strength in that knee to do anything other than stop my attack by blocking it's path.

Mauy tai just rub bamboo on their shins so their nerve endings are dead, their shins aren't invincible to fracture's, though you wouldn't notice pain perhaps you would still be fractured.


That's an old technique. We use density bags (really heavy bags) now. It helps build a layer of muscle over the shin and also deadens the nerves.
I see you claiming quickhand is god modding, but I dont see it, sure you guys are gonna be all " of course you'd say that you're on his team" but reading it over and over again it is possible since quick stated he broke the hold of mercenary, then suddenly mercenary threw a elbow for quick's temple, which is impossible without getting your hand between you and quick to bring your elbow around, other wise you couldn't even hit him, and you'd have to duck low since he is low.


That only make's it easier for he to left the hold from around the neck by lifly drawing my grasp toward myself while using the swivel motion of the shoulver to bring the elbow in from the side. The height is irrelevant, simply because of the range. On top of that, he never stated anything about lowering his position by any means. 5'10 vs 6'2 that would make throwing the elbow exceptionally easy. If he was as low as you try to make him seem, I would have approached the attack completely different.

His arm would be beside his head no one just pushes their elbow down without brigning their body with it, and since your hold pushed him down his arm would be covering part of his head. You also seemed to suddenly not be tripped by quick, or even mention that when your elbow was flying, I am just wondering why you are all talking shit on quick when you need to re read the post, it is a good fight, but perhaps you should use your hieght to an advantage which any one who knows martial arts knows hieght can be the greatest disadvantage along with weight.


He never stated that. Besides, if he threw the elbow down to my knee that would only leave his hand and his wrist in the way. That would be the sole means of defense. Nothing but a wall of flesh and bone. If anything, the elbow should have just hit the hand, and then cause the hand to hit the head. All of the strength was forced into the elbow. Downward force, but no lateral tension. You're operating soley on assumption. As for the trip, did you not see the part that says COMBO-BREAKER? The rest of the move wouldn't exist because I interrupted the whole process dude. He takes far too much chronological time in each of his moves. It's not like I'm frozen stiff the entire time he's moving.

About him not being able to break a mauy tai kick boxers shin or fracture or wtvr, he could just say he is a wrestler and not be slammed on the ground couldnt he? So don't think because your character "IS" or Takes a mauy tai stance means his shin is invonerable.


I'm quite sure I explained the whole leverage thing. A rising knee straight from the ground up is not going to break a bone without any leverage. The thigh isn't going to generate that much force. That's why when you see MMA fighters throw knee strikes they've holding onto their opponent or actually jumping off the ground. That's because they're trying to do damage. Quickhand done neither.

If any one has shit to say by all means talk thy shit, i am right here if any one wants to challenge.

It was a good argument, I'll give you that. You actually read the whole thing. Too bad you just didn't solve the puzzle. Next?

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Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Piccolo | Super Namekian on Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:53 pm

Why don't you just post the important parts I don't wanna read a story of talking, no offence. You speak of the time frame and how he can't by any means get a combo off, but you siad your knee hit his knee when surely his knee would hit your shin since your knee would be higher as you were positioned better and he was bent down, cuz no way could he have hit your knee unless he was bent down which you made him do by trying to force him at your knee. Wether fractured or not, quick was stating a definate connection that had many possibilities the shin is yours ultimately though he may not have had enough force, he certainly had enough to hurt it. Still I don't understand the whole elbow at his head, he had his hand by it, there's no other way his body could throw an elbow that low at your knee and he never said he was standing up after you forced him down. I am just wondering how you two are gonna end this. How are you two gonna end this any ways lol.

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Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Mercenary on Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:50 pm

As for the elbow to the head. I guess I'm going to have to actually draw a diagram to show you how that works. It's a c

And another thing...I wish I would have pointed it out earlier.

* _-Quickhand-_ As his head was being pulled downwards, he was forced to look down. Thus, he saw the rising knee and he rose his left leg to slam his kneecap against the man's right knee while simultaneously bringing his right elbow downwards against the man's kneecap, completely nullyfying the attack. As every man knows, a kick to the shin hurts a lot. The bone down there is very sensitive, plus with the impact of the elbow to the kneecap would be very painful. Maybe not to this guy though, who seemed to be able to cope well with pain. He'd then swing his head to my left which would be his right, breaking free of the hold on my neck and bringing his right foot forth. he would slide his right foot to the side, angling it so his ankle would be behind the ankle of Mercenary and the back of my knee would be to the back of his knee. He would then bring his right arm to the man's belly, and he'd attempt to push the man over, my right arm pushing him backwards while my right leg would be moving in the opposite direction, trying to trip him.

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Ok, it's noted here that he brought his elbow down to make contact with the knee-strike.

Yet his intention, as listed in the post was to strike my knee. Since he SAW my knee, he aimed his knee to strike my own, Right?

The other bolded text makes it look like he's trying to control the actions of my character, but I took that as him referring to his own actions and just writing it the wrong way.


Mercenary was almost amused. The knee to knee contact would have been enough to stop the rising of the knee, but Quickhand made the mistake of trying to add some flare to it by dropping his elbow into the strike as well. From that position, where the knee is folded and the muscles in the thigh are bulged, striking the knee with the elbow was virtually useless...However, when he dropped his right elbow to throw the blow, the mercenary countered by releasing his left hand's hold around the back of the head snapping his left elbow in toward the right temple of Quickhand. His right hand, which was still on the back of Quickhand's neck at that particular point in time would jerk to the left, securing the head to that the forearm could meet the temple. This particular manuever would nullify keep the hold-break and throw attempt from even happening. [combo breaker!!!] due to the fact that he would have to deal with this offensive manuever before moving forward. (Time simply will not allow you to do so many moves in one turn uncombated. Sorry buddy)

Observe the bold text. This move is performed by drawing the hand back toward the body while swiveling the shoulder from left to right, bringing the elbow and forearm in toward the temple. The elbow would strike temple, the forearm would smack the side of the face in general. That was the intent. His escape was thwarted by jerking the hand to the left, obviously my left, keeping him in place and not allowing the rest of the move to go on until he dealt with the attack. Disregaurding it would just smack him in temple, but according to his last post he had not erected a viable defense against it in the first place.

* _-Quickhand-_ As his elbow had dropped to intercept the knee of Mercenary, his hand was still up by his temple, so the man's forearm or elbow shot, whichever it was would be blocked. Also, since the man had not dodged the knee to the shin the shin bone of the man would become slightly fractured. Not enough to stop the fight, but enough to make it hurt hella bad when he walked on that leg. Since the man's left arm was now on the outside of my right arm. This meant his body on his left side was left unguarded. Taking advantage he would explode a shovel hook into the mans unguarded ribs, turning his hip into the punch. The shovel hook was right handed, and he was right handed fighter. This was his power punch, his trump card. This could very well be the end of the fight. <end>

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Observe the bold text. Though it was not stated in his last post that his hand was positioned near his face in gaurd, in this one it's suddenly there now? First he was aiming to strike my knee, but all of a sudden he hit my shin? What sorcery is this!? Oh, I know, it's called pulling it out of your behind when you really really need an out. But regaurdless. I accepted the strike to the shin because I knew he didn't have the leverage required to do the damage. I also accepted that move as a fair enough defensive against my attack to the stomach. But when you give an inch, they try to take a mile.

Had I just said "Ok" and treated it has he tries to I could have simply said that the knee strike, which hit the shin, which is on the bottom of  a thigh throwing a knee strike would only lift it, causing it to strike a higher region on the stomach, but that's distasteful. If you can't tell, I'm trying to play as fair as I can here, but he's obviously not going to do the same. So perhaps I should just bear down on the b/s at every turn. I hope you find this explanation sufficient.

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Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Piccolo | Super Namekian on Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:36 am

I know he didn't state his post, honestly I am having some trouble definign both of your movements, quick isnt the best man with words he just knows what to do, and your movement combined with his makes some of the attacks odd. Still you mention a time frame, he would raise his knee for your knee, but he missed and would hit your shin, he really shouldnt have stated a fracture, but I belive he said that in more hopes of conecting, his description is unorthodox, in "some" of the post and I can see why you both would argue since your moves are confusing. He also mentioned that the knee to the shin wouldn't even be anough to stop the fight, technicly I don't think the hit should count IF; you two are going by who ever reaches the set amount number of hits first. IF NOT; I belive it is still a hit and would only inflict the same amount of pain as your elbow smacking his hand would. In turn based melee some things are just obvious from position, if his body is bent down that's the only place for his hand to be in order to subdue your knee blow. I'd rather see the outcome to this rather then this bickering between us all though. So good luck and good fight thus far, in my books atleast, and I'm sure you are about to take a more offensive approach.

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Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Celeste`Delcross on Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:38 pm

Lmfao.
Nice.
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Oh no, here it is again. I need to know why did I choose to betray you.

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