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Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby dealing with it on Fri May 02, 2014 9:45 pm

How does your religion affect your philosophical views? What sort of beliefs are incompatible with (forbidden by, contradictory with, etc.) religion?

On the other side of the coin, what sort of philosophical beliefs prevent someone from being religious?

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Re: Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Aniihya on Fri May 09, 2014 6:21 pm

I would say nihilism would prevent religiousness to an extent. Epistemological nihilism however avert gnosticism. My philosophical view are to one side egalitarian and to the other nihilist. Yet I am an animist.
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Re: Religion and Philosophy

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Maybe the OP could be changed to simply asking what religion and/or philosophy people subscribe to?

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Re: Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby indi.foxx on Tue May 27, 2014 12:22 am

A LOT of my friends are Christian. About 96.8% percent, so they're making me conform, although I'm leaning towards science.

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Tips: 0.00 INK Postby OldManPsycho on Tue May 27, 2014 2:23 am

This might be hard for me to communicate, but I'll try my best. My individual personal belief is closely related to Monism. As a lover of wisdom and seeker of universal truth, I find myself lost in thought trying to find out if there is a higher being and what is it's role in our existence. I try to disregard previous notions of God, whom I have chosen to call Creator because God give a false notion of the necessity of worship. If the Creator exists, it does so without need of our recognition/worship.

I feel I must take a moment and urge freethinkers to break away from the lie that is Science vs. Religion. It does no good to think that they contradict each other, instead if they are considered two different translations of the same formula/story, then one can begin to piece the puzzle that is the mystery of the universe and our existence.

The sad truth is that religion is used as a bad word among many intelligent groups. And they have a right to be wary of the word; religion has encouraged slavery, wars, inequality over all and for the sake of a all-too-human God that always has the ends justify the means. To this, I say that if you look for the evil and flaws in men then you will be vastly rewarded with a reoccurring theme.

The Creator is nether all good, all evil nor all together indifferent. It is the breath of life and the shadow of death. In the beginning, all was united with the Creator and in the end, all will be united again. Internal damnation and everlasting joy do not exist, nether does the absence of the Creator. The Creator is all knowing because it reside in every particle of existence. The Creator is not all powerful, it is not infinite nor infallible.

To say anything after this point would be rambling as my beliefs are not solidified. As life brings new lessons and experiences I learn more about my role in relation to my Creator.
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Re: Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby PerfectSilence on Fri May 30, 2014 9:08 pm

If I am able to add in my two cents?

I enjoy both philosophising on a "personal" level as well as that of religion - is it not possible that the two can coexist? After all, all worldwide religions have had their roots taken from ancient philosophies and if you look into any holy book, past all the junk which most atheists and anti-religion fanatics seem to pick up on (particularly in Christianity as I speak from a somewhat Catholic perspective), there is an absolute truth, one which has been decided upon after generations of philosophical thinking.

I personally don't see why religion has to bias our philosophical views or vice versa. We choose a religion because our philosophies coincide, and if they don't, we have no obligation to join that particular religion. I think the thing which puts most people off is all the ritualistic circumstances and this belief in a higher God. I may only be an amateur religion and philosophy student, but I am sure I can explain the true nature behind the religious perspective, should anyone be interested in a discussion about Christianity. But I digress.

I think the problem with modern day religion is that it is too structured - religion is, after all, a structured philosophical argument - and that society has bypassed many of the more ancient religions like Catholicism (I will not mention other religions for fear of being an ignorant fool) and this stereotype of religion = bad seems to exist.
Which I think is sad, because religion has played a huge role in society and it would be a shame to simply disregard it and the billions of people pertaining to it.

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Re: Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Din on Fri May 30, 2014 10:54 pm

So, after a year or so long absence...

Strictly speaking, any religion or ideology is itself a philosophical view. If your religion or ideology doesn't shape your philosophical view, then you're not what you claim to be. A person's philosophical view is the way they live.

So if one's a christian, it makes sense that doctrine found in the bible is his/her philosophy. That's where I fall in. It seems odd if a religion doesn't bias a philosophy. How wouldn't it is my question.
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Re: Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Aniihya on Sat May 31, 2014 6:43 am

Philisophy (doing) is meant here, not the common use of (a) philosophy. Religion cannot really be considered as philosophy because people do not question it. People in religion tend to be biased and not constantly ask questions but follow without doubt.

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Re: Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby MetaJokeName on Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:48 am

Philosophically, I'm a naturalist, which precludes any religious views on my part. Specifically, I'm a metaphysical naturalist for one simple reason. To quote musician Tim Minchin (who I recommend if you love dark humour) "Because throughout history. Every mystery. Ever solved. Has turned out to be... not magic." Simply put, I have no reason to believe that supernatural events have ever or will ever occur, and a colossal amount of reasons to believe a naturalistic explanation of the universe. Science gets results that non-science can't, really.

In terms of how I live my life, I tend to have an existentialist bent. We're here in this mind-bogglingly huge and complex universe, governed by natural laws we haven't fully worked out yet. And we live on this tiny planet orbiting an average sun in a planetary system on the spiral arm of a non-descript galaxy. On this insignificant mote of dust in the universe, we invented both justice and injustice, cowardice and courage, honesty and deceit, all the varied and amazing virtues and foibles of being. There is no purpose in our lives but what we make, and that's both the beauty and the despair of our existence.

But hey, that's just me.
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Re: Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Patchlamb on Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:11 am

I guess humanism is a philosophy. I believe in giving rights to the people, and not dictating what they can do based on a religion, but based on the idea of freedom and equality. Regardless of race, gender, or sexuality.

For religion, I do not believe in any god or gods, or anything supernatural. So I would be an atheist. We make our own laws, they are not handed to us by a god. In the same way we make our own happiness, it is not a reward for obeying a god. That's how I see things.

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Re: Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby dealing with it on Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:54 pm

PerfectSilence wrote:if you look into any holy book, past all the junk which most atheists and anti-religion fanatics seem to pick up on (particularly in Christianity as I speak from a somewhat Catholic perspective), there is an absolute truth, one which has been decided upon after generations of philosophical thinking.
What is this absolute truth you speak of?

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Re: Religion and Philosophy

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Athena's Assassin on Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:24 pm

As Din said, religions are (with a few 'pagan' exceptions) in themselves philosophies/ideologies. Some philosophies conflict with others, in the same way that religions conflict. These labels aren't really exclusive.

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