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Is satire ever really harmless?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Aniihya on Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:34 pm

I mean in satire, someone is always mocked. So can you say that satire is never harmless?
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Re: Is satire ever really harmless?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Dawn ✩ Quixotic on Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:12 am

Well... that varies.
First, satire is less "mockery" and more "criticism".
Sometimes, like criticism, this can be more constructive, and lighter satire will focus on highlighting more universal human foibles, less mocking them and more "hey, see how silly this is? we act like that sometimes too, you know..."
This doesn't mean certain people who take those things very seriously won't still have objections to it, sure, but if you take the view that it's intended to shame those who are doing wrong and being willfully ignorant about it, you could say that they're calling for getting picked at.

The second part is it depends on how you look at the "harm" that is being done.
Many satirists would say their works are meant to be influential against problems they see in the world, corruption in church or state, human vices, the hubris of the elite... this might upset those people, but you probably wouldn't say that it's "harming" them unless you really think that's the way things should be.

Simply making fun of people, well... that's not really satire.
Some people, who say, make a movie with a lot of racist jokes in it, might defend the work by saying that it's "satire", but that's complete nonsense. So one shouldn't confuse the "I'm calling this satire as an excuse" brand of material with actual satire.


So satire shouldn't really be harmful in the first place. That doesn't mean some people won't take offense to it, or that it won't be done poorly and be intermingled with degrading jokes, but that's it's own issue, not something inherent to satire itself.

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Re: Is satire ever really harmless?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Kestrel on Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:40 am

Someone somewhere will always take offence to something. So in that sense there is always going to be some harm done. However satire by definition does not have malicious intent. This is therefore more a question of interpretation than anything else.
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Re: Is satire ever really harmless?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby dealing with it on Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:16 pm

Humour is a high-level defense mechanism, right before accepting the world as it is. With a twist, most jokes -- even highly offensive ones -- can be made part of an acceptable philosophical dialog. Hence, it's only funny if it's true.

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Re: Is satire ever really harmless?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Aniihya on Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:52 am

Okay, I have realized that one exception could be satire news like the Daily Current or the Onion.

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Re: Is satire ever really harmless?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Strix on Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:25 pm

I don't believe many people respond well to Satire. My high school was nearly sued for a piece of Satire known as "A Modest Proposal"... lots of angry parents raged on that assignment. For the most part, I would advise just about anyone to avoid Satire. It certainly doesn't earn you many friends.
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