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The Abominable Hulk

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Great Lord Foofah on Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:28 pm

Sellout, the whole thing.

I like how they're setting the scene for the Avengers, but honestly, the entire Hulk movie was one giant sellout piece.

It all started with how the original David Banner (And I will call him David Banner because that is his real fucking name, not typically alliterated Bruce Banner) appeared for all of the fanboys of the original Hulk series. I could stand Stan Lee's appearance, but once the original David Banner appeared, I knew it would all go downhill.

Secondly, they completely misused the sad hitchhiking theme from the series. They used it all wrong. As soon as the Hulk said, "Hulk smash," I decided I was going to throttle the producer with his own spinal cord. Sorry to people who enjoyed the movie, but you all have terrible taste. The new Hulk movie and all its fans are proof that the world is rotting.

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

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I just watched the movie, it was at least 7000x better than the first epic lengthed-get-no-where-movie, and I think that you read waaaaaaaay to into it.

Also it obvious that you are in now way a comic book reader. It always been Bruce Banner in the Original comic book serise, you speak as if the crap TV show that was based upon the hulk was what the hulk was about. And it not unusual for movies to have cameo's seriously, get over it, it didn't effect the movie at all, they showed stan lee as he was the co-creator of the movie, and they showed Bill Bixby in his movie "The Courtship of Eddie's Father" on TV because this movie takes some elements from the comic, and some elements from the TV series.

And I still don't see one valid point as to how it sold out at all. Second "The Lonely man" was another Cameo it wasn't meant to be a vital point, and it was used at appropriate times but only as a cameo in noway where they trying to reproduce the feel of the old show.

As for "Hulk Smash" hearing that was enjoyable as it was a common used catch phrase in the comic and it was a reference to that. You seem to hate all use of Cameo ever.

The movie focused loosely on the comic and the TV series and I think portrayed the Hulk story in a more believable way than the Marvel Comic but still maintaining the main elements of the comic which the series did not. Although the Abomination creature was wrong as it was originally a KGB character I can't understand why they had to make him Russian and British trained.

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

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Meh, maybe sellout was the wrong term. I should edit it to fanboyporn.

The reason I like the series and consider its aspects to be the true ones is because it's much, much more plausible and realistic, making it much easier to connect with 'Bruce Banner.' I don't like the idea of a megasuperbbqpowered Hulk. I like the idea of a much more mundane one because he can get into actual danger without being inconsistent with other dangerous scenarios. Oh, God, that happens so many times: what didn't hurt the hero before hurt him later in a very similar situation. Having a much more human, vulnerable Hulk makes situations more intense as there is more danger and makes it easier to emotionally connect with something that looks human.

'Hulk smash' did not need to be there and it was a terrible idea. The Hulk should not be expressed as a stupid thing. It should not be expressed as a powerhouse. The Hulk is best expressed as 'Bruce Banner's' barrier from a normal life, not a rage mode.

They didn't use 'Lonely Man' appropriately. I saw it as ineffective, not because I felt it should be used the way the TV show did it but because it simply wasn't effectively placed. I do not feel that things should be used the way they were used in the past, just used well. 'Hulk smash' wasn't used well, neither was 'Lonely Man,' and if Bixby and Lee were going to be used in the movie they could've at least broken the fourth wall.

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

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I think you guys need to switch your brains off and enjoy a movie for a movie.

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

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I only enjoy good movies like Cars, Cats, and Star Wars Holiday Special.

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

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Hah Hah Hah.

Well, I agree with the OP. But I was never in to this stuff... So my opinion is kinda moot.

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Ottoman on Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:58 am

What I have never, ever, eva figured out, is why, A: They call ever Hulk movie the same thing, and B:Why every time they make a Hulk movie, he never fights any of the Baddies from the comic, and it's always a new, and evil, "Supa-hulk' he's fighting.
I'm sorry, I like to stay true to the original premisis.
At least the Spiderman movies had the original bad guys.

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Sol on Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:30 pm

I am not a mean person. Oh no, but i wish to point out some flaws Ottoman made.


Fact.

The abomination was infact in the Hulk Comics.

The hulk dogs were in fact in one of The Hulk comics.

Fact.

The first hulk movie was called The Hulk

Fact.

The second movie was called the Incredable(or Abominable) Hulk

Before joining in a discussion please gain the knowledged required. Facts.


fact [fakt] noun
A piece of information about circumstances that exist or events that have occurred; "first you must collect all the facts of the case"

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

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You got me. :)

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

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Personally I enjoyed both movies. Because they were movies. Movies are designed to Entertain. If they do that, they did their job. If i wanted a comic book...I would go buy a comic book.

Oh do not fee like I was berating you, I was simply pointing a few things out. You can ask some of my buds...that was quite pleasent and chilled out for me. -=p

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

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True, you make a good point.
I can get kinda harsh when I correct my freinds when they get something wrong about something I know a lot about, or am passioate about. So, I'm by no means innocent myself. :B

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Defect by Design on Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:11 am

Sol wrote:Personally I enjoyed both movies. Because they were movies. Movies are designed to Entertain. If they do that, they did their job. If i wanted a comic book...I would go buy a comic book.

Oh do not fee like I was berating you, I was simply pointing a few things out. You can ask some of my buds...that was quite pleasent and chilled out for me. -=p

Of course you where pleasant and chilled out, you were trying to make yourself seem more cool by your remarks.
Well the way you wrote reeks of it at least -rolls eyes-

Great Lord Foofah wrote:Meh, maybe sellout was the wrong term. I should edit it to fanboyporn.

The reason I like the series and consider its aspects to be the true ones is because it's much, much more plausible and realistic, making it much easier to connect with 'Bruce Banner.' I don't like the idea of a megasuperbbqpowered Hulk. I like the idea of a much more mundane one because he can get into actual danger without being inconsistent with other dangerous scenarios. Oh, God, that happens so many times: what didn't hurt the hero before hurt him later in a very similar situation. Having a much more human, vulnerable Hulk makes situations more intense as there is more danger and makes it easier to emotionally connect with something that looks human.

'Hulk smash' did not need to be there and it was a terrible idea. The Hulk should not be expressed as a stupid thing. It should not be expressed as a powerhouse. The Hulk is best expressed as 'Bruce Banner's' barrier from a normal life, not a rage mode.

They didn't use 'Lonely Man' appropriately. I saw it as ineffective, not because I felt it should be used the way the TV show did it but because it simply wasn't effectively placed. I do not feel that things should be used the way they were used in the past, just used well. 'Hulk smash' wasn't used well, neither was 'Lonely Man,' and if Bixby and Lee were going to be used in the movie they could've at least broken the fourth wall.

Fanboyporn, lol I guess I still say it was all more of a cameo's, and the use of that particular actor was purely on the purpose of his famous and it makes bucks, tis the way of he world.

Plausibility or not, it doesn't make it the 'true' one just because it made a better storyline doesn't make it correct I believe the word 'true' belongs to the original, and that's the comic, where he was grey.

In the Comic the Hulk was a completely separate entity, as you soon find out with the Hulk wars where he pretty much fucks up everyone who has ever existed.

I still think you look into Cameos too much, there only meant to be an add extra that isn't that important to the movies, I mean the meaning of the word is pretty much "Small part or role played by a Distinguished person or celebrity."

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Re: The Abominable Hulk

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I might point out that "Hulk Smash" was not intended to portray stupidity, nor does it. You'll find inarticulateness is one of the biggest side-effects of -- you guessed it -- RAGE. =D
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Don't 'ee mourn for me, my lads
When it comes my day to die.

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