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The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Remæus on Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:01 pm

Speed fighting has been around in many forms for quite some time. T2 (and all of its various sub-styles), TRBS, RCM, Hybrid, Freestyle - the concept remains simple: control an imaginary character using your typing skill to defeat your opponent's character in an imaginary world or setting. The constant conquest of one's opponents; the epic struggle to increase one's typing speed. In a world where egos are rampant and debates rage over network latency (lag!), C&Pers, and macros, speed fighters have long struggled to attain one goal: to become the best.

So who is (or was) the best speed fighter of all time? What are the criteria by which you make your judgments? What is it that makes a great speed fighter; accuracy, length, strategy...? Have a story to tell?

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

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Exodus, or as many of the vets and early AMers will know him by... Sex. <3

He was fast, he was smart, and my God, was he funny to watch.
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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

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....A guy not yet from this site, he's started to become a bit of a forum junkie and I've already given him the link to here... Lord Raziel... He began a complete noob and became the best over-night... He is the BEST para-speed fighter. He could kill anyone... If he really wanted =) He is quite widely known =)... His moves are gorey, lust filled and descriptive... He's been known to make someone actually throw up in RL because his moves were so bloody, detailed and gorey =D
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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Victor Kalliandrio on Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:57 am

Speed is the key factor to being the best T2 fighter. Resourcefulness and strategy are the next key components to it.

Accuracy and length aren't required for speed fighting, unless you're trying to prove your full capabilities. Turn-based is for those aspects of role playing.

Anyways, I have plenty of stories to share, but I'll bore you with most of them. ;) Therefore, I'll simply state that there have been too many "best speed fighters" that I've encountered.

@ tigerz-peace: It only shows that the person that read his writing had a weak stomach.

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Dionysus on Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:52 am

The year is 1994.
The man in question is Andy Oedo.
The name of his character is Dai Kiaou Shin.

Dai Kiaou Shin is one of those characters who became the topic of legend. His name has been passed down from generation to generation. Was he a real person, or simply a creation of our own imagination? Dai Kiaou Shin was indeed a real person named Andy Oedo, who helped to invent freeform/freestyle speed-based textual combat. Long long ago, before the tutorial era, when legends were passed down by word of mouth, and nothing was written or saved, there was a primitive on-line fighting style or system known only as "Speed". It was old, very old, and nowadays it would seem almost noobish and unorganized. Dai Kiaou Shin was a master of this ancient system.

The following story is said to have taken place in 1994 on Yahoo chat. Dai Kiaou Shin was involved in a tournament, not unlike the Grand Tournament we have today. Legend has it, he was incredibly fast, sort of gifted in typing. He could post whole entire sentences before most of his opponents could even type a few words. Being a master of "Speed" and having the desire to challenge himself, he would often type more and more words in his actions every time he fought. At the time fighters used very few words to express their actions, perhaps 4 or 5 words at most. Dai Kiaou Shin evolved the idea by creating "Freeform" textual combat. Having fought and defeated hundreds of Speed fighters, he began teaching this new method to those who he himself deemed worthy of learning it.

In the year 1996, Dai Kiaou Shin moved to Comicity and taught this new method to the CC elite. One of these elite fighters was Shin Gouki (i.e. Kenshiro Maruyama) who stood out amongst the rest. In fact, anyone who has ever been to Comicity knows who Shin Gouki is. He became the hero of many stories which could cause for a whole new topic apart from this one, but right now I will focus on Dai Kiaou Shin since this is about him. Dai Kiaou Shin is called the modern father of freeform/freestyle, and I believe anyone else who masters "Speed" is in some way his follower. Dai Kiaou Shin paved the way to evolved textual combat. It is because of him that we have so many "Speed" styles today; styles like T2, T3, AA, RCM, TRBS, Freestyle, etc. For that reason I decided to write this post, in memory of a great fighter in RPG history. Let us not forget this real human being whose ideas and skills in speed-based textual combat changed the way we think today.

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

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I am posting here to placate the pestering people who prompt me to do so.

There is no rubric that everyone can agree to use when making an assessment, there is no legitimacy as to the authenticity of the candidates, there is no universal panel, there is no record from start-to-finish, there is no historical continuity, etceteras. All we have are a bunch of opinions. Hell, we don't even have universal rules. Most of the people who speed-fight think rules are merely an arbitrary word-count and typographical error limit. 10-12-10! 7-8-7! W-T-F. Do you think real fighters say SWORD-AXE-SWORD or MACE-GUN-HAMMER?

Who is the greatest fighter of all time, in real life, anyway? Genghis Khan is responsible for the death of tens of millions during the expansion of the Mongol Empire, which occupied roughly an eighth of the world's total landmass, but could he hold up in a one-on-one fight against William Marshal (allegedly the greatest knight of all time)? Is it even a fair comparison?I refer to the rubric discussion above.

It is a silly question, so I defer to Google, which knows all.

Greatest Fighter: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gr ... f+all+time
Greatest Speed Fighter: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gr ... f+all+time
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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Victor Kalliandrio on Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:30 pm

Circ wrote:I am posting here to placate the pestering people who prompt me to do so.

There is no rubric that everyone can agree to use when making an assessment, there is no legitimacy as to the authenticity of the candidates, there is no universal panel, there is no record from start-to-finish, there is no historical continuity, etceteras. All we have are a bunch of opinions. Hell, we don't even have universal rules. Most of the people who speed-fight think rules are merely an arbitrary word-count and typographical error limit. 10-12-10! 7-8-7! W-T-F. Do you think real fighters say SWORD-AXE-SWORD or MACE-GUN-HAMMER?

Who is the greatest fighter of all time, in real life, anyway? Genghis Khan is responsible for the death of tens of millions during the expansion of the Mongol Empire, which occupied roughly an eighth of the world's total landmass, but could he hold up in a one-on-one fight against William Marshal (allegedly the greatest knight of all time)? Is it even a fair comparison?I refer to the rubric discussion above.

It is a silly question, so I defer to Google, which knows all.

Greatest Fighter: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gr ... f+all+time
Greatest Speed Fighter: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gr ... f+all+time


Theoretically, there is historical continuity if the event is recorded and can be analyzed completely. Facts can be drawn out when the whole event is taken into account and everything can be analyzed.

However, don't mistake my words, it is (obviously) not practical for it to happen. I'm simply stating that the possibility exists. Unless we turned speed fighting into a professional sport (lol) that could allow us to analyze all the noteworthy fighters, it is something that is impossible to answer.

Anyways, silly rules like "10-7-10" are set into place to keep newbies or UA in line. You can find the equivalent in any fighting sport.

Why doesn't a fighter hit below the belt in boxing? It's an open target and they'll probably go down, right?
Why doesn't an MMA Grappler bite his opponent? You're going to be in close range, you might as well put your mouth to good use.

It is practical in the sense of combat to do whatever it takes to win, but it is part of the rules not to do it. Therefore, it is the fighter who is able to handle the limitations set against him/her and successfully win that is the best.

I'll agree with you on the rest, since you're pretty much on the same opinion of me. You can have the greatest fighter in an era. You can have the greatest fighter in a specific style of fighting in a given time. But you cannot have the "greatest fighter of all time".

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Dionysus on Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:34 am

Historically, the greatest fighter of all time is the man with the largest army. That is, his empire. And when it comes to empires, turning kings into gods, we have many great armies to choose from; the Romans, the Spartans, the Byzantines, the Vikings, the Persions, the Mongols, the Zulus, the Shoguns, the Sthagas, and so forth.

As for the RPGworld, things work the same. There have been indefinate clans, all rising and falling like the sun before darkness. I do recall the Z-senshi and Kao-syndicate of Comicity, the Yakuzan Zaibatsu and Triads of Multicity, the infamous Nobunaga and Shinjo clans of Metawerx, up to the SeVants and Vydusts of modern time. Who is the greatest speed fighter of all time? Why, of course, the answer is simple.

It is the one who is here, when all the others have gone... (relate this to my previous thread "Why I Left The Grand Tournament" on the Flame Wars forum). He who lives longest, dictates history. That is why war is pointless, because even though a great king fights gloriously in battle, his enemies have but to out-live him in faery tale. Though the king dies honorably, taking thousands with him to their bloody graves, all a mere poet has to do is annihilate him with fiction, and the king will be no more.

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

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The holocaust is a fairy tale.

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

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Hitler and the Nazi armies he once commanded are dead to history. The Jews whom he wished to annihilate, however, live on... I was thinking more along the lines of the Sumerians, or Akkadians, whose entire population was destroyed.

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

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We all know I'm the greatest of all time.

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Dionysus on Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:23 pm

Alex, you are indeed a good fighter. I do not know whether you use the name Quickhand in reference to your typing skills, or in reference to the video game of the same name. I do know this, however... You cannot beat me.

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Circ on Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:51 am

Bait. And. Switch.

The looming self-aggrandizement aside, if Hitler is dead history, why is Hitler still discussed? Many of those who survived the holocaust lived with fear for the rest of their lives. Some still do. The military policies of many governments changed as a result of WW2. LOTS of things changed, and anything that changes history can never be dead to history.

That was the point of my sarcastic remark about the holocaust being a fairy tale. Some people have tried to say it is, but their empty sayings have done crap all to change the influence of that historical event.

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Dionysus on Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:31 am

Circ, you are great... I fearfully dred the day when you are no longer a voice in our community... God help us, if such a day ever comes to pass. (Not being sarcastic)

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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

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As Kael explained, we cannot simply put 'Greatest fighter of all time' but we can put 'greatest FIGHTERS of all time.'

Since most of them or probably all of them never fought each other. And simple 'well, I saw him be faster than' is not an example, nor a authentic validation of someone being faster or slower than who you are putting up against someone.

But if I had to pick, it would be Prettz. Detailed and ferocious, he was from Chat-Avenue. Most of you people know him by his ridiculous 'ab to ab' attacks, but he is only playing around now and days since retiring.
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Re: The Best Speed Fighter of All Time?

Tips: 0.00 INK Postby Dionysus on Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:49 pm

The year is 1999.
The man in question is Jason (last name unknown).
The name of his character is Keiyin Mitshura-ken.

Keiyin Mitshura-ken was not the most popular fighter in 1999, but he had many friends and frequented many RPG sites, chats and forums. Keiyin was the leader of an infamous RPG clan known as the Mavericks, who numbered between five and ten members. They were mercenaries, assassins, spies, royal guards and escorts. Elitists you could say, only the Mavericks were skilled at both speed-based and turn-based textual combat. No, Keiyin never invented his own fighting style or joined any national RPG fighting tournaments. What Keiyin is best remembered for is his involvement in the notorious Epic War of Year 2000 (Y2K), during the golden era of internet roleplaying chats.

At that time, the Yakuza and their sister clan, the Triads, had gathered up their numbers and started a massive web-wide invasion on several RPG sites, chats and forums. Their presence was undeniable in Multicity and Yahoo, with members numbering in the hundreds (no exaggeration). The leader of the Yakuza was LegendaryScias, the founder of T3, while the leader of the Triads was CWRias, the founder of AA (most RPers were using either T2 or AA). In the year 2000, both clans decided to invade Multicity, causing many RPers to seek refuge at Usagi&Mamoru's site, making U&M a rebel stronghold. At that time, U&M was ruled by Queen Serenity, whose cousin Thalia was the queen of another chat called the CastleOfDragons (CoD).

Keiyin Mitshura-ken and the Mavericks were Queen Thalia's personal guard, so when the Yakuzan Zaibatsu and the Multicity Triads invaded U&M, the Mavericks got involved. I was there in the year 2000, and witnessed the whole thing first-hand. In fact, at that particular time I was the king of U&M, being married to the queen. LegendaryScias was there, along with CWRias, Keiyin Mitshura-ken, Watcher, Melkor and others. After a long bloody war between the Mavericks and the Yakuza (which lasted over 3 months in real-time!), Keiyin and Scias finally agreed to have a one-on-one showdown at U&M to put an end to it once and for all. The battle lasted for over twenty minutes, until finally Keiyin beheaded Scias with his sword. Although people today don't really recall the name of Keiyin Mitshura-ken, the Epic War of 2000 continues to flourish in people's memories. So for that reason, I've decided to include his name here, in memory of a legendary fighter who gained victory over hundreds.

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