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Re: Souls

That still sounds like you are denying them because you don't know about it. I'm not 'denying' them; I'm saying I don't believe in them, and have very serious doubts about their existence. Those two things are not the same, although, really, in the end it just boils down to technicalities. Regardle...
by Fallacy
on Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:35 am
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: Souls

I must ask, are you a local or a global skeptic? I believe that to claim something is not true, something needs to be known about it. Why do you believe that souls do not exist? I believe in the first post you said you didn't see evidence for the existence of souls. Is that the only premise for you...
by Fallacy
on Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:01 am
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: Souls

Note: The Germans had different results and more exact data unlike MacDougall. Thank you for your time, but it's not the same exact study, and the results are not the same. Also, the last one is a lot more recent and thus, more relevant to the discussion at hand. You mean a study by some 'Noetic Sc...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:56 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: Souls

Guys, saying that souls don't exist based on the fact that there is no evidence is called the fallacy of appealing to ignorance. Yes, which is why I haven't said that. It doesn't sound like you guys are debating at all. It sounds like you are just bashing others for showing evidence of their belief...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:46 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: Souls

http://lilt.ilstu.edu/kfmachin/foi/weight%20of%20human%20soul.htm There's another source. Thank you very much. http://www.dapla.org/pdf/whs.pdf There's another. Enjoy, and knock yourself out. I know the first one wasn't so believable or reliable, but I hope these suffice. The first link is just the...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:39 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: Souls

http://www.noeticsciences.co.uk/weighting-the-human-soul/ There's an article. I am not trolling. I am part of a high school competitive speech and debate team. We run drills to help build cases, flow, and otherwise compete properly. I can prove that people do compete in speech and debate if you don...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:25 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: Souls

Yes. That's what happens when you get your teacher to have some students prepare to debate whether or not gingers have souls. You can probably find the study online thanks to the internet. I'm pretty sure that's how he found it. Regardless, it's true because we are not allowed to compete with false...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:07 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: Souls

.....There was a study done. They weighed people before and after death. Hypothetically, if you don't have a soul that leaves soon after death, you wouldn't lose weight when you died. They discovered the weight of the soul, and thus more or less proved it. Exact definitions differ, but it does exis...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:52 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: Creation vs. Evolution

What we see in biology, however, is that there are genes in all organisms which specifically prevent mutation outside of genetic boundaries. Now, what a person chooses to think about that information is their own bias. But it does appear that with such a large number of genes protecting and insulat...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:37 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Creation vs. Evolution
Replies: 148
Views: 7455

Re: Creation vs. Evolution

How can you believe evolution when Darwin himself claimed his whole theory would fall apart if the cell was complex, and now due to our current level of Science the cell is an extremely complicated organism? Darwin does not own the theory of evolution; just because he was the founder does not mean ...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:40 am
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Creation vs. Evolution
Replies: 148
Views: 7455

Re: Souls

For me a soul is the essence of a person, there spirit persay... So, a soul is a spirit. That doesn't really clear anything up. I do not believe in ghosts, for me if a person dies he or she's soul goes to one of two places: Heaven or hell. I suppose you have some strong evidence for these beliefs o...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:03 am
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: Souls

They don't exist. If someone sees a ghost running or flying around, and their a religious nut, I'm sure they'll start saying "Oh, that's just so-and-so's soul that got stuck here." No its not. Ask any "ghost hunter" and they'll all tell you the same answer: Ghosts are nothing mo...
by Fallacy
on Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:13 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Souls

Do they exist? I see no evidence for them.
by Fallacy
on Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:29 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Souls
Replies: 42
Views: 2018

Re: What Is Your Favorite Myth/Legend?

The Bible. That isn't meant to be a snarky, atheist reply (okay, well, maybe somewhat): it's actually pretty fascinating if you get past the whole 'what the fuck people actually believe this shit' part, although a lot of parts are boring -- and, admittedly, I'm not too learned on myths or legends.
by Fallacy
on Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:55 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: What Is Your Favorite Myth/Legend?
Replies: 7
Views: 421

Re: Absolute vs. Relative Values

This is the exact question which arises from intentionally presuming that Absolute Values do not exist and that only Relative Values remain. However, Relative Values can not ensure their own existence. They are circumstantial and conditional. This means that said values could encounter some outside...
by Fallacy
on Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:53 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Absolute vs. Relative Values
Replies: 18
Views: 1721

Re: Absolute vs. Relative Values

If, as some claim, morality is relative, then how are we to think about Americans who rejected slavery at a time when most people thought it was a normal and necessary institution? I view them as revolutionaries. Are such Americans like Ralph Waldo Emmerson, Thoreau, and John Brown not displaying a...
by Fallacy
on Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:13 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Absolute vs. Relative Values
Replies: 18
Views: 1721

Re: Absolute vs. Relative Values

Tea wrote:"Are all those words a relative value, or are they absolute? And if divisible, which ones are which?"

Relative, obviously.
by Fallacy
on Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:28 am
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Absolute vs. Relative Values
Replies: 18
Views: 1721

Re: Absolute vs. Relative Values

Morality, purpose, and the like are all subjective. I'm not even sure how objective versions of those things would work -- they seem logically impossible to me. Personally, yes, how 'good' or 'bad' an action is depends on the circumstances. That seems like such a no-brainer to me, it's kind of shock...
by Fallacy
on Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:03 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Absolute vs. Relative Values
Replies: 18
Views: 1721

Re: Torture: Pro Or Con?

things Yeah, sorry 'bout that. I literally forgot what this thread was supposed to be about. Anyways, I'm pretty sure dig17 was trolling. I don't really have anything more to say on the original subject. Torture seems to me to be pretty ineffective, and I could spend the precious time doing somethi...
by Fallacy
on Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:57 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Torture: pro or con?
Replies: 33
Views: 1175

Re: Torture: pro or con?

Fuckin' A. They certainly contribute a big deal. Actually, it's not the liberals that are the source of all the nation's ills, it's the conservatives, the Christians, and anyone else I disagree with. You can see the evidence when you step outside; if you're not scared, then it's working. Look at my...
by Fallacy
on Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:39 pm
 
Forum: Discussion & Debate
Topic: Torture: pro or con?
Replies: 33
Views: 1175
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