Gay marriage: Yay or nay?

[Juvenile-River]

People try to make this an issue of quality, but it's not. It's a matter of semantics, whether or not same-sex unions fit the definition of marriage. It's not about whether or not two people who love each other should be allowed to be together. Love is not the only reason for marriage, and gay couples can live together if they want. I love my cats, but I'm not going to marry them.

Also, marriage is a religious institution. Even in Japan, their non-Christian people marry in a church.

I'm not for gay marriage because I see it as an oxymoron.

[dealing with it]

It's a matter of semantics, whether or not same-sex unions fit the definition of marriage.

Allowing or barring same-sex marriage has clear, real-world consequences. I don't think you can boil it down to a question of semantics.

I'm not for gay marriage because I see it as an oxymoron.

Simply redefine marriage and this "problem" disappears. It's not hard to consciously choose which definitions of words to accept; it happens all the time in the time both within and outside of philosophy.

[Lifecharacter]

Also, marriage is a religious institution. Even in Japan, their non-Christian people marry in a church.

Oh you, trying to scare everyone by pretending marriage is a religious institution. Everyone who actually knows what they're talking about knows marriage is a little certificate given by the government, with no religious requirement involved. In fact, the religious couldn't even be married if they didn't get the okay from the government, because marriage stopped belonging to religion a while ago.

I'm not for gay marriage because I see it as an oxymoron.

Good thing the definition of marriage is incredibly malleable, or else it would still be required that you be the same race as the person you're marrying. Or, even before that, it would be a method of exchanging property (read: girls/women) between men for the sake of alliances or money after which the woman would legally cease to be a person and simply become her husband's property. Good thing indeed!

[Archaeological]

Marriage is a contract between people and is not specific to one culture or religion, and is definitely not a religious institution in the modern word. If you're talking about the religious ceremony and tradition, you're most likely referring to holy matrimony. ^^

[AerialWitness]

I say 'Yay' although am a Christian because who am I to say who people love and don't love. I didn't create them. I don't know their journey or the path that they will take. God said love your neighbor as your self and I wouldn't want to be treated like shit because I'm going to marry someone of the same gender.

[Nyxous]

id say, duh? could be because i have a few gay/ lesbian, friends who i love dearly, or it could be because of the fact, i can never judge based on love, but mostly i think i agree because who am i to say no?

[ShieldMaiden]

Definitely yay. Who are others to tell us who to love and who not to love?

[ManOnRock]

Surprised this debate has lasted so long. I feel like the origin of such things comes down to opinion. And there is one thing our generation can agree on: All of us are entitled to our own opinions. No gay person is telling others to be gay. Any who oppose gay marriage should take some personal advice from the bum in their lives and not give a hoot, since they aren't the ones getting married in the first place.

[Minipunk]

people should marry whoever they want to as long as it makes them happy :)

[ボクセルちゃん]

I'd have to say Yay, but before I get write why I agree with it I would like to state that first, I'm most likely bi-sexual myself and I don't really have a religion stand point so I just consider myself agnostic.

Now let me start by saying, a Washington Post/ABC News poll from February–March 2014 found a record high of 59% of Americans approve of same-sex marriage, with only 34% opposed and 7% with no opinion. The poll also revealed that 53% of the population in the States that currently do not allow same-sex couples to marry approve of same-sex marriage.

50% of respondents said that the United States Constitution guarantees the freedom to marry the person of one's choice, regardless of that persons's sex or sexual orientation. 41% disagreed, and 9% had no opinion.

This is quite a huge thing to say the least, since it means that a lot more people are beginning to agree with same-sex marriage and that the people who oppose are gradually getting small. I'm not saying I'm basing my opinion of of statistics from polls cause they could of messed with numbers a bit, but if it's at least partially true then it's a huge step for America to become more tolerant of people.

While I did get my information from Wikipedia, even though it's not the most trustful resources. I do have many other links that say that the majority of america agrees with same-sex marriage.
Here,Here,Here and I'm sure there're probably many more.

I myself agree with same-sex marriage because a relative of mine is a homosexual (or bi-sexual, I don't have much of an idea about it but I know she's dating a women. I also agree cause I don't see a logical reason to not agree with same-sex marriage. I don't believe that marriage is always between someone you love, there are financial benefits to marriage as well.

[Script]

I'd just like to take a moment to address everyone who argued with me here.

Checkmate, bitches.

[Aniihya]

I have met gay people who were against gay marriage because the didn't believe in any marriage at all. Doesn't make sense to me why to not give people self-determination. Marriage doesn't need to be about sex even though I personally do not see any point of marriage being special. I would personally rather just choose a personal bond with my partner (no matter if male, female, transgendered or hermaphrodite: Cuz I am omniromantic.)

[Grnmachine]

Of course a YAY! Even if it ends up not concerning me, why should i complain? If it has nothing to do with you, then you have no say in it- if you're straight, then you shouldnt be concerned with Gay marriage. Why should you be?

[serenitykmoon]

I have met gay people who were against gay marriage because the didn't believe in any marriage at all. Doesn't make sense to me why to not give people self-determination. Marriage doesn't need to be about sex even though I personally do not see any point of marriage being special. I would personally rather just choose a personal bond with my partner (no matter if male, female, transgendered or hermaphrodite: Cuz I am omniromantic.)

Okay. So. Let's say that you have a "life partner" whether girl ,guy, cat, robot whatever - your life, your fetish.

One day your life parter gets sick.
They don't work, because you - are the main provider.
They stay home with your children - which being a parent doesn't equal health insurance.
You go to your job and say, "Hey boss, I wanna put my other half on my insurance lets do this bro." They can't do that. You have to be married to do that.
So your other half, goes without proper medical care because you and they can't afford all the $$$$$ in bills.
So because you're not married, they can't have insurance, they get sicker.
They finally get to see a doctor, and they find out its something terminal.
So now your other half is in the hospital, and they're dying.
They're really really sick and there's nothing you can do about it.
Then, the hospital decides - only FAMILY can visit. You are not legally family. You are not married. You are not blood.
They have every right to stop you from being there.


Marriage is more than just a piece of paper, its a safety net for things like ^. You don't HAVE to change your name, you don't have to do a lot of things. You really DON'T have to get married, but - it is a good idea for some things.

[Kestrel]

That sounds more like an argument for giving the same rights of marriage to registered partnerships.

I like living in liberal paradise.

On-topic. Why can't two consenting adults get married? They aren't doing anyone any harm by it. I mean. Seriously? I don't see any argument against it. Well I see arguments being made but... You know.

[Aniihya]

serenitykmoon, I must have been drunk when I wrote that. Please disregard it, I do intend to marry another guy within the next two years.

[>Marionette<]

I can't believe this is a discussion people who follow abrahamic cultures are wild man

[Strix]

Let people marry whoever they wish to marry. I don't care.

[PrettyOddTho]

Absolutely yay.

[Polka]

People should be able to marry anyone they choose. Why in this day and age must we deny people happiness?
Happiness for some people is all about getting married, so let them do it. No-matter their sexual preference.

I do understand that Marriage was a 'religious' privilege at one time but that ship has long sailed. and I don't mean to cause offense by saying that.. plenty of atheists get married nowadays which totally refutes the point that gay marriage is a Sin against the church because surely not believing in the religious act behind marriage is also a sin?

Anywho- Everyone has a right to happiness and the bond of marriage. Happiness for all I say.