Reincarnation: Possible?

Macabre Legion · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Macabre Legion** on Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:06 pm

There is documentation of Reincarnation, not just through a single, or several, religions. You can google it, and it'll pop up, but there is nothing, no evidence, to support the Xian and Atheist claims of what happens when we die. Sure, there is the Xian books of what happens, but it is full of contradictions, we just shrug it off and place it in the fantasy section of our libraries. Then there is the Atheist claims. We live, we die, and that is it. I do believe many state that this is more than possible, because of the lack in evidence of what happens after our deaths.

http://www.reversespins.com/proofofreincarnation.html
This link shows of how a little boy could provide some clue as to what happens when we die. Yes, I do understand that the parents could have just imagined the whole thing, forcing their kid into this sort of tale, but what of the other documentations? Did all of the parents of children from around the world just get together and come up with their own version, and forced their kids to act it out?

http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-proof.htm
Dr. Ian Stevenson has spent his last 40+ years collecting stories of children's past lives from all across the world. Could he have made it up? Sure, but what of the religions that focus around the concept? Was that made up as well, or is it possible that this may actually be real?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/15/sunday/main20063019.shtml
http://haigobaigo.hubpages.com/hub/reincarnationevidence

The list goes on and on, but no scientific support for the Xian and Atheist communities, and why is that, I wonder?

dealing with it · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **dealing with it** on Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:22 pm

There's plenty of evidence that after we die, we decay. Comparatively, there's scarce evidence that some part of our consciousness magically teleports into the brain of a newborn.

Fallacy · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Fallacy** on Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:06 pm

... there is nothing, no evidence, to support the Xian and Atheist claims of what happens when we die.

The evidence that nothing happens when you die besides bodily decay is that there is no evidence otherwise.

http://www.reversespins.com/proofofreincarnation.html
This link shows of how a little boy could provide some clue as to what happens when we die. Yes, I do understand that the parents could have just imagined the whole thing, forcing their kid into this sort of tale, but what of the other documentations? Did all of the parents of children from around the world just get together and come up with their own version, and forced their kids to act it out?

I only read the first story in that link. It seems plausible to me that he could have gotten the ideas from television or other media and then let his imagination run wild.

Occam's razor.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-proof.htm
Dr. Ian Stevenson has spent his last 40+ years collecting stories of children's past lives from all across the world. Could he have made it up?

It's plausible that he's either lying, greatly exaggerating the results, or that children simply have over-reactive imaginations. Probably a combination.

Sure, but what of the religions that focus around the concept? Was that made up as well

... Yes?

or is it possible that this may actually be real?

There's some slight possibility I guess, but the same can be said for almost any fanciful superstition or myth, like Santa Claus.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/15/sunday/main20063019.shtml

With some slight nudging, people's imaginations can lead them to believe anything.

http://haigobaigo.hubpages.com/hub/reincarnationevidence

Couldn't read that one, but I don't doubt it's anything other than the same bullshit as the other links.

The list goes on and on, but no scientific support for the Xian and Atheist communities, and why is that, I wonder?

Yes, there's no evidence that when we die, our brains shut down and our bodies decay.

Macabre Legion · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Macabre Legion** on Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:28 pm

dealing with it wrote:Comparatively, there's scarce evidence that some part of our consciousness magically teleports into the brain of a newborn.

There is still evidence, though. Even if it cannot be explained fully, the documentation is there.

@Fallacy

Read more, and research it for yourself. Everyone, from all over the world, can't all be in on the conspiracy of acting out that they are reincarnated in some way.

You have the religious views on the subject, the Atheistic views, and the smart ass views. I already know the brain and body decay, I'm talking about the views that circulate about what happens to the essence that makes up people as a whole.

Fallacy · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Fallacy** on Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:43 pm

Macabre Legion wrote:@Fallacy

Read more, and research it for yourself. Everyone, from all over the world, can't all be in on the conspiracy of acting out that they are reincarnated in some way.

You're deliberately missing my points. Why does it have to be a 'conspiracy'? People's brains work in ways that they're able to imagine things that don't exist and twist reality, and this can be heavily influenced by other people and ideas (e.g. if I've been brought up believing that ghosts exist, I'm more likely to interpret and manipulate situations in my head to make it seem like ghosts exist, like seeing a face in a window or thinking that wind against the branches of a tree is moaning). And, again, Occam's razor -- there are much simpler explanations for why people believe they're reincarnated than believing that they actually are reincarnated.

You have the religious views on the subject, the Atheistic views, and the smart ass views.

...What?

I already know the brain and body decay, I'm talking about the views that circulate about what happens to the essence that makes up people as a whole.

There is no evidence that people are any more than their physical bodies. See my soul thread.

dealing with it · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **dealing with it** on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:25 pm

Macabre Legion wrote:I already know the brain and body decay

Excellent. Then you know that the people who believe in annihilation of consciousness after death aren't entirely without evidence. I'm looking for a word to describe these people that isn't "atheist", since Buddhists are atheists, and many Buddhists believe in reincarnation.

I'm talking about the views that circulate about what happens to the essence that makes up people as a whole.

I'm not sure what you mean by essence here. Let's say that "humanity" is the essence of being human. When someone loses their humanity, we usually mean they have done something extremely immoral. When someone steals your humanity, it means they have done something extremely degrading to you.

But do you lose your humanity when you die? Do you give it to someone else? I'd say no to both of those. Our humanity remains in the memory of the living, and is tied to the actions, in life, of that decomposing body. And there are only two cases where you give someone else humanity: when you give birth to them, or when you teach them a valuable life lesson.

Or is humanity not the essence of humans? Colour me confused.

Fallacy · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Fallacy** on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:28 pm

dealing with it wrote:I'm looking for a word to describe these people that isn't "atheist", since Buddhists are atheists, and many Buddhists believe in reincarnation.

Skeptics?

Barboros · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Barboros** on Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:58 pm

Fallacy wrote:
dealing with it wrote:I'm looking for a word to describe these people that isn't "atheist", since Buddhists are atheists, and many Buddhists believe in reincarnation.

Thing is, Buddhists AREN'T Atheists, they're Buddhists. It's things like this that kinda tick a lot of people off, including those that practice Buddhism. Just because one doesn't believe in a God that rules over all, does not make them Atheist. It just means they don't believe in one all powerful being up there wherever one may be.

dealing with it · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **dealing with it** on Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:29 pm

Yoru-Senpai, what do you mean when you call someone an "atheist"? I thought it means simply that someone does not (a-) believe in any gods (-theist). Which gods do Buddhists believe in?

Patcharoo · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Patcharoo** on Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:18 am

Okay, okay.

It gets to a point that reincarnation is just someone saying something. What happens if two people say 'I am the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, the lord and saviour!' Well, they can't both be telling the truth, but at the same time we can't say either of them aren't.

Therefore, like god, there is plenty of first hand accounts proving he does exist, and a lot of scientific evidence that says otherwise.

Chaosut · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Chaosut** on Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:32 pm

I sure hope not. One lifetime on this earth is enough for me. Though perhaps I would be reincarnated as an idealistic and optimistic that would render this sort of mindset useless.

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