Veganism

Iye Khara · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Iye Khara** on Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:13 pm

Aniihya wrote:Northern Soul: You are not exactly the best person for debate either. You often either start name calling when it goes long enough or you take an opportunist position instead of standing by your opinion.

I'm going to go off what I've seen from the Evolution vs Illogical Beliefs thread and say that that's completely false.

Aniihya · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Aniihya** on Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:34 pm

Painkiller: Have you been on this site for almost three years? No. Then you do not know what I am talking about.

Iye Khara · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Iye Khara** on Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:42 pm

I would mention that you are evidence that seniority on the site is clearly not equivalent to 'knowing what you're talking about', but I won't derail this thread further.

Jag · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Jag** on Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:33 pm

Move on from the off-topic accusations and personal attacks, please. If you want to have a discussion of the merits and criticisms of the vegan lifestyle or other related topics, this is the place. If you want to start a fight with one another, take it off this Web site. Thank you.

NorthernSoul · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **NorthernSoul** on Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:42 pm

Whilst my grandfather had like five heart attacks before turning 60 and many others in the family ended up the same way (even my father suffers high blood pressure, high cholesterol and unhealthy amounts of Vitamin K and my brother has high cholesterol at the age of 18), I have not gotten anything yet and the doctor says it is highly unlikely for me to end up that way too.

High cholesterol at 18, 5 heart attacks before 60 and others with hypertension and hypercholesterolaemia? That's a good-going family history... We're taught that any kind of cardio/cerebrovascular event before the age of 60 (for men, 65 for women) in a first degree relative constitutes a significant genetic CV risk when taking a full clinical history. It's not exactly uncommon these days, but it's definitely something to write in the notes.

And a high cholesterol at 18 years old without an underlying cause (such as hypothyroidism) is unusual and might be due to familial hypercholesterolaemia. Which increases your risk even more. It's not something to piss around with- my granddad died of a stroke at 50 and I'm conscious of it myself. But again, this shouldn't be about anecdotes! We're all in our teens or twenties so our own personal experience is irrelevant.

Yes: combining plants may contain all 20 essential Amino acids but plants do not contain 158 Amino acids that meats have. Depending of the human body, these remaining amino acids can contribute to the immune system as well as the durability of tissue of the human body. - Source: my German university biology book.

This is bollocks. Eukaryotes have 21 amino acids. Only 8 are true essential amino acids. Source: my medical degree. And all of biochemistry...

As for anything else... Thanks Jag. I haven't helped and for that I think I'll leave this thread alone now.

dealing with it · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **dealing with it** on Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:35 pm

At Aniihya's request, I unlocked this topic. Please keep it clean, or I will lock it again.

Aniihya · **Tips:** 0.00 INK by **Aniihya** on Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:39 pm

In the past five years, I tried to live vegan but it made me really sick. I found out it was because I had a multitude of protein and starch allergies and intolerances. So now I am limited to legumes, nuts, fruit, rice, pseudograins, meat and fish.

My current stance is now:

-One solution doesn't fit all.
-Some people just can't be vegan, because their health doesn't allow it such as genetic disorders.
-Most vegans are still dogmatic and unsympathetic.
-I favor free range meat over factory farming.

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